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How do you differentiate “blindly” suggesting AWS from someone non-blindly suggesting it? Or is everyone that disagrees with you simply not seeing the Objectiv

How do you differentiate “blindly” suggesting AWS from someone non-blindly suggesting it? Or is everyone that disagrees with you simply not seeing the Objective Truth of which you are aware and they are not? Sheesh.

Retric 2y ago
In tech, blind support of anything is simply based on superficial aspects like popularity or marketing without any specific supporting arguments around price, performance, etc. Thus it’s easy to distinguish the two by asking in-depth questions. IE it’s fast! How fast?
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  The problem is that in most engineering discussions "big tech does this" is instant discussion win, while a solution that deviates from what coworkers perceive as "standard" will never get accepted, even if you use logical arguments. I mean, if I'm doing a project with one other person, we can use logic to get to the best solution, but if it's three people in a group or more, then the most charismatic person becomes the leader, and the rest does whatever the leader wants, even if they make bad calls.
MadVikingGod 2y ago
It usually starts with blindly suggesting we should get on cloud. Usually with no other reason than "Everyone else is doing it". That usually ends with a large pile of cash burnt and maybe a thought piece or two about how cloud is bad and we should just go back to banging rocks. The non-blind suggestion usually has reasons on why you want cloud services, why AWS is the right choice over many other suppliers of cloud, and some cost analysis of what it would cost vs doing nothing or why you can't do nothing.
devmor 2y ago
Are you really saying you’ve never heard anyone recommend something based on anything other than objective fact?
athrowaway3z 2y ago
All I've said is I ask for something more than nothing, and your first response is to accuse me of demanding everything. Not going to spell out a design meeting if your first instinct is an ad hominem. Sheesh

Retric 2y ago

In tech, blind support of anything is simply based on superficial aspects like popularity or marketing without any specific supporting arguments around price, performance, etc. Thus it’s easy to distinguish the two by asking in-depth questions. IE it’s fast! How fast?

anal_reactor 2y ago
The problem is that in most engineering discussions "big tech does this" is instant discussion win, while a solution that deviates from what coworkers perceive as "standard" will never get accepted, even if you use logical arguments. I mean, if I'm doing a project with one other person, we can use logic to get to the best solution, but if it's three people in a group or more, then the most charismatic person becomes the leader, and the rest does whatever the leader wants, even if they make bad calls.

MadVikingGod 2y ago

It usually starts with blindly suggesting we should get on cloud. Usually with no other reason than "Everyone else is doing it". That usually ends with a large pile of cash burnt and maybe a thought piece or two about how cloud is bad and we should just go back to banging rocks. The non-blind suggestion usually has reasons on why you want cloud services, why AWS is the right choice over many other suppliers of cloud, and some cost analysis of what it would cost vs doing nothing or why you can't do nothing.

devmor 2y ago

Are you really saying you’ve never heard anyone recommend something based on anything other than objective fact?

athrowaway3z 2y ago

All I've said is I ask for something more than nothing, and your first response is to accuse me of demanding everything. Not going to spell out a design meeting if your first instinct is an ad hominem. Sheesh