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Are there any metrics to show 18F or USDS are strong successes? My impression has always been that it is a well-intended but low-impact effort.

tehjoker 2y ago
Hard to say who's responsibility it is but federal websites have gotten noticeably less shitty over time and I always feel more at ease on a website that obviously had their input.
pimlottc 2y ago
You could always read one of USDS’s reports to Congress to get an idea on what they’ve done: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22report+to+congress%22+%2Bsite%3Ausds.gov https://www.google.com/search?q=%22report+to+congress%22+%2B...
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itronitron 2y ago
Like when a state considers itself a global superpower but hasn't had any notable impact on an unremarkably sized rock orbiting an average sized star in a barely noticeable galaxy?
- hofrogs 2y ago
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snowwrestler 2y ago
One of the big wins was login.gov which is modern, easy to use, more secure, and less expensive than the crazy array of ancient agency-specific login systems it was in the process of replacing. What happens to it now, I have no idea. It’s probably going to be scrapped in favor of “login with X”.
- arjie 2y ago
  If login.gov is scrapped, I would imagine the guys who are best positioned to take over would be id.me (who already have the irs.gov contract and more).
  - snowwrestler 2y ago
    ID.me might be in the worst position. There was already a big public backlash against it, so previous IRS leadership was working to replace it. And it doesn’t send any money back to Elon Musk, so future IRS leadership won’t want to save it either. (Only half joking…)
    - arjie 2y ago
      Fascinating. I didn't know people even knew they existed.
      - snowwrestler 2y ago
        https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/tech/facial-recognition-activists-irs/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/tech/facial-recognition-activ... https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-transition-away-from-use-of-third-party-verification-involving-facial-recognition https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-transition-away-f...

tehjoker 2y ago

Hard to say who's responsibility it is but federal websites have gotten noticeably less shitty over time and I always feel more at ease on a website that obviously had their input.

pimlottc 2y ago

You could always read one of USDS’s reports to Congress to get an idea on what they’ve done: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22report+to+congress%22+%2Bsite%3Ausds.gov https://www.google.com/search?q=%22report+to+congress%22+%2B...

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itronitron 2y ago

Like when a state considers itself a global superpower but hasn't had any notable impact on an unremarkably sized rock orbiting an average sized star in a barely noticeable galaxy?

hofrogs 2y ago
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snowwrestler 2y ago

One of the big wins was login.gov which is modern, easy to use, more secure, and less expensive than the crazy array of ancient agency-specific login systems it was in the process of replacing. What happens to it now, I have no idea. It’s probably going to be scrapped in favor of “login with X”.

arjie 2y ago
If login.gov is scrapped, I would imagine the guys who are best positioned to take over would be id.me (who already have the irs.gov contract and more).
- snowwrestler 2y ago
  ID.me might be in the worst position. There was already a big public backlash against it, so previous IRS leadership was working to replace it. And it doesn’t send any money back to Elon Musk, so future IRS leadership won’t want to save it either. (Only half joking…)
  - arjie 2y ago
    Fascinating. I didn't know people even knew they existed.
    - snowwrestler 2y ago
      https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/tech/facial-recognition-activists-irs/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/tech/facial-recognition-activ... https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-transition-away-from-use-of-third-party-verification-involving-facial-recognition https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-transition-away-f...