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How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? Medical care for the poor who can't afford medical care or insurance? Public education in general

How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? Medical care for the poor who can't afford medical care or insurance? Public education in general?

ethbr1 2y ago
And critically, are these things more cheaply centrally provided by a government? Not providing a medical safety net or social security net seems like it's saving money... until one has to account for the downstream costs those decisions have.
monero-xmr 2y ago
If we decide to do these things with tax dollars, then as a society our goal should be the best outcome for the lowest cost. Many seem to have forgotten this
- MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
  How could they even be done at all without tax dollars? That was the question.
- margalabargala 2y ago
  Sure, but "best outcome for the lowest cost" isn't a specific point, that describes the entire Pareto front. There's no one optimal money/quality point.
margalabargala 2y ago
Road repairs would be done by their owners, who will sell road access to anyone wealthy enough to deserve to be able to use a road. /s
jokethrowaway 2y ago
> How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-build-the-roads/ https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b... > Medical care for the poor who can't afford medical care or insurance? Private charities > Public education in general? Homeschooling / Private schools / Private charities
- margalabargala 2y ago
  > > How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? > https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b... To anyone who didn't click the link, the answer is "private companies will build roads. And they won't charge tolls! They will pay for the roads by building roads in front of businesses, and then extorting the business for money or else they wall off business access from the road". I guess if the business doesn't like that they can just build their own road on top of the first one, wall off the sides, and charge the first road owner if they want to have a road near their business. Whether this scenario is better for literally anybody compared to what currently exists, is an exercise left to the reader.

How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? Medical care for the poor who can't afford medical care or insurance? Public education in general?

ethbr1 2y ago

And critically, are these things more cheaply centrally provided by a government? Not providing a medical safety net or social security net seems like it's saving money... until one has to account for the downstream costs those decisions have.

monero-xmr 2y ago

If we decide to do these things with tax dollars, then as a society our goal should be the best outcome for the lowest cost. Many seem to have forgotten this

MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
How could they even be done at all without tax dollars? That was the question.
margalabargala 2y ago
Sure, but "best outcome for the lowest cost" isn't a specific point, that describes the entire Pareto front. There's no one optimal money/quality point.

margalabargala 2y ago

Road repairs would be done by their owners, who will sell road access to anyone wealthy enough to deserve to be able to use a road. /s

jokethrowaway 2y ago

> How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-build-the-roads/ https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b... > Medical care for the poor who can't afford medical care or insurance? Private charities > Public education in general? Homeschooling / Private schools / Private charities

margalabargala 2y ago
> > How do we fund road repairs and constructions with zero tax? > https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/this-is-who-will-b... To anyone who didn't click the link, the answer is "private companies will build roads. And they won't charge tolls! They will pay for the roads by building roads in front of businesses, and then extorting the business for money or else they wall off business access from the road". I guess if the business doesn't like that they can just build their own road on top of the first one, wall off the sides, and charge the first road owner if they want to have a road near their business. Whether this scenario is better for literally anybody compared to what currently exists, is an exercise left to the reader.