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If we're done having fun with words, would you like to take this opportunity to provide some reason to think this true? Specifically, how DOGE is combatting ine

by hoten 2y ago

If we're done having fun with words, would you like to take this opportunity to provide some reason to think this true? Specifically, how DOGE is combatting inefficiency.

fragmede 2y ago
The question is if one is dumb enough to buy Tweets from the DoGE Twitter account as anything resembling reality. There's plenty of "evidence" there for morons to buy.
- hoten 2y ago
  Of course, but to start the uphill battle of calling out the bullshit, we have to at least know which bullshit to counter. For me, the only charitable interpretation of DOGE is that they have accidentally figured out how to spread incompetence (not wholly unfamiliar to much of the government) to the small islands that fended it off (gutting 18F/USDS). The cherry was accidentally firing a chunk of the nation's nuclear experts to save a dime, and then clawing them back. I think any claim of DOGE doing good work has to address those things in a convincing manner (in addition to why the existing processes are lacking; GAO). I haven't seen that attempted by anyone.
monero-xmr 2y ago
How would cutting spending be a parasite? The goal is to cut spending.
- hoten 2y ago
  That does seem to be the goal. But the facade is that it is wasteful spending being cut.
- MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
  The parasitic act is cutting spending while leveraging the position to increase their own revenue. The guy "cutting spending" is getting contracts and tax cuts out of the deal, and killing watchdog agencies and anything else that might try to stop him. It's almost poetically parasitic. He's inside the host, sucking it dry, while killing anything that can get in his way.
  - GeneralMayhem 2y ago
    While I agree with you, the "parasitic" act I was referring to was specifically taking over the USDS. The image I had in mind was the fungus that mind-controls insects. Trump doesn't have the authority to create new federal agencies, so he claims to have repurposed the authority of an existing one, retaining only the shell for appearances. I don't think that can possibly be constitutional - it entirely defeats the point of Congress having that authority, and is effectively a line-item veto if the law can say "this agency will exist for X purpose" and the president can simply ignore the "for X purpose" - but it doesn't matter if neither Congress nor the courts are willing to do anything about it.
    - Spooky23 2y ago
      The USDS is irrelevant, it was taken over to provide a fig leaf of legality and legitimacy to Elon’s depredation.
      - GeneralMayhem 2y ago
        Yes... that's what I said

by hoten 2y ago

If we're done having fun with words, would you like to take this opportunity to provide some reason to think this true? Specifically, how DOGE is combatting inefficiency.

fragmede 2y ago

The question is if one is dumb enough to buy Tweets from the DoGE Twitter account as anything resembling reality. There's plenty of "evidence" there for morons to buy.

hoten 2y ago
Of course, but to start the uphill battle of calling out the bullshit, we have to at least know which bullshit to counter. For me, the only charitable interpretation of DOGE is that they have accidentally figured out how to spread incompetence (not wholly unfamiliar to much of the government) to the small islands that fended it off (gutting 18F/USDS). The cherry was accidentally firing a chunk of the nation's nuclear experts to save a dime, and then clawing them back. I think any claim of DOGE doing good work has to address those things in a convincing manner (in addition to why the existing processes are lacking; GAO). I haven't seen that attempted by anyone.

monero-xmr 2y ago

How would cutting spending be a parasite? The goal is to cut spending.

hoten 2y ago
That does seem to be the goal. But the facade is that it is wasteful spending being cut.
MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
The parasitic act is cutting spending while leveraging the position to increase their own revenue. The guy "cutting spending" is getting contracts and tax cuts out of the deal, and killing watchdog agencies and anything else that might try to stop him. It's almost poetically parasitic. He's inside the host, sucking it dry, while killing anything that can get in his way.
- GeneralMayhem 2y ago
  While I agree with you, the "parasitic" act I was referring to was specifically taking over the USDS. The image I had in mind was the fungus that mind-controls insects. Trump doesn't have the authority to create new federal agencies, so he claims to have repurposed the authority of an existing one, retaining only the shell for appearances. I don't think that can possibly be constitutional - it entirely defeats the point of Congress having that authority, and is effectively a line-item veto if the law can say "this agency will exist for X purpose" and the president can simply ignore the "for X purpose" - but it doesn't matter if neither Congress nor the courts are willing to do anything about it.
  - Spooky23 2y ago
    The USDS is irrelevant, it was taken over to provide a fig leaf of legality and legitimacy to Elon’s depredation.
    - GeneralMayhem 2y ago
      Yes... that's what I said