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I would love that. Problem is, it will probably not tell you the truth about it as Twitter has always had censorship one way or the other. So it will tell you

I would love that. Problem is, it will probably not tell you the truth about it as Twitter has always had censorship one way or the other. So it will tell you what twitter policy is allowing people to talk about and allowing grok to report.

soco 2y ago
I don't really understand this Twitter (or in general social media) censorship argument. If I call someone on the street a fckin idiot I probably get slapped or even shot in certain places, and everybody will say I called for it. And even without physical violence I can get slapped with a lawsuit and forced to pay damages. Now if I do the same on social media it's suddenly all "muh liberty of expression" if anyone reacts to it. Aren't we maybe having the wrong expectations online, that it would be somehow supporting all the shit we cannot do in real life? Okay I realize this ship already sailed and online people do online all shit not allowed offline, but I rather see the situation as a miserable failure of law enforcement, and not as a hard won right to be an ass to your fellow citizens.
- onesociety2022 2y ago
  What country do you live in? In the USA, you can say “I think person X is an idiot”. That’s protected speech. No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL. If someone punches you in the face for calling them an idiot on the street, then they are likely going to get prosecuted for those actions. Yes you run the risk of getting punched in the face but you are not in any trouble with the law. OTOH it’s a problem if you say “Person X is a rapist”. Then you might get sued for libel. You can’t make false statements to destroy someone’s reputation. Censorship online on a social media platform is not subject to any freedom of speech laws. Freedom of speech only applies to the US Government not restricting your speech. The social media platform has the authority to regulate speech however they want to on their platform.
  - soco 2y ago
    So the difference is the kind of insult?
  - dreamcompiler 2y ago
    > No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL In the USA, you can absolutely be sued for this. The plaintiff is unlikely to win, and you could probably get the case dismissed if you convince a judge that's it's clearly an opinion, but you'd still have to pay a lawyer some fees. People can sue you for anything. The first amendment doesn't protect you from lawsuits. It protects you from the government putting you in jail for speech.
    - hatefulmoron 2y ago
      I don't really get why people point this out. Yes, you can be sued for anything. But what are you actually suggesting? That you do nothing, ever, because you could be sued for anything? Or are we just doing the same old nitpick?
      - lesuorac 2y ago
        They point it out because there was an explicit claim to the contrary. "No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL. "
        Teever 2y ago
        A charitable interpretation of that claim would be that 'No one can successfully sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL.'
        hatefulmoron 2y ago
        Pointing out that the statement is false in the most uninteresting literal sense is just odd. Sure, you can be sued for that in the same sense that you can be sued for eating a croissant. Glad we got to the bottom of that.
  - 2y ago

soco 2y ago

I don't really understand this Twitter (or in general social media) censorship argument. If I call someone on the street a fckin idiot I probably get slapped or even shot in certain places, and everybody will say I called for it. And even without physical violence I can get slapped with a lawsuit and forced to pay damages. Now if I do the same on social media it's suddenly all "muh liberty of expression" if anyone reacts to it. Aren't we maybe having the wrong expectations online, that it would be somehow supporting all the shit we cannot do in real life? Okay I realize this ship already sailed and online people do online all shit not allowed offline, but I rather see the situation as a miserable failure of law enforcement, and not as a hard won right to be an ass to your fellow citizens.

onesociety2022 2y ago
What country do you live in? In the USA, you can say “I think person X is an idiot”. That’s protected speech. No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL. If someone punches you in the face for calling them an idiot on the street, then they are likely going to get prosecuted for those actions. Yes you run the risk of getting punched in the face but you are not in any trouble with the law. OTOH it’s a problem if you say “Person X is a rapist”. Then you might get sued for libel. You can’t make false statements to destroy someone’s reputation. Censorship online on a social media platform is not subject to any freedom of speech laws. Freedom of speech only applies to the US Government not restricting your speech. The social media platform has the authority to regulate speech however they want to on their platform.
- soco 2y ago
  So the difference is the kind of insult?
- dreamcompiler 2y ago
  > No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL In the USA, you can absolutely be sued for this. The plaintiff is unlikely to win, and you could probably get the case dismissed if you convince a judge that's it's clearly an opinion, but you'd still have to pay a lawyer some fees. People can sue you for anything. The first amendment doesn't protect you from lawsuits. It protects you from the government putting you in jail for speech.
  - hatefulmoron 2y ago
    I don't really get why people point this out. Yes, you can be sued for anything. But what are you actually suggesting? That you do nothing, ever, because you could be sued for anything? Or are we just doing the same old nitpick?
    - lesuorac 2y ago
      They point it out because there was an explicit claim to the contrary. "No one can sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL. "
      - Teever 2y ago
        A charitable interpretation of that claim would be that 'No one can successfully sue you for expressing your opinion online or IRL.'
      - hatefulmoron 2y ago
        Pointing out that the statement is false in the most uninteresting literal sense is just odd. Sure, you can be sued for that in the same sense that you can be sued for eating a croissant. Glad we got to the bottom of that.
- 2y ago