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> Missing from this is the percentage of people that can charge at home. In the US[1], about 70% of homes are detached or attached single-family homes[2]. The
by coldpie 2y ago
> Missing from this is the percentage of people that can charge at home.
In the US[1], about 70% of homes are detached or attached single-family homes[2]. The vast majority of those will be able to support charging one or two cars at home. How to address the remaining 30% is definitely an issue worth discussing, but it's not an issue for the majority of people who live in the US. If we could get to 70% of cars to being EVs, that would be a huge dent in our emissions, still worth celebrating even if it doesn't work for absolutely everyone.
> Even if apartment complexes start adding chargers the renters may have to eat that cost as part of their rent for some period of time.
What I've seen around here (Twin Cities, MN) is apartments just have some charging company put about 4~8 of their fast chargers in their parking lot. I would guess those companies pay the installation costs and charge the users directly, so the apartment owners don't have to deal with it at all.
[1] The article is about Europe, but I don't live there. Maybe someone else can find stats for Europe.
[2] Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1042111/single-family-vs-multifamily-homes-usa/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1042111/single-family-vs...
- jcranmer 2y agoFrom https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/data/2020/hc/pdf/HC%202.1.pdf https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/data/2020/hc/pdf..., out of ~80m non multi-unit homes, only about 50m have a garage, with about 30m without a garage and about 40m living in a complex where garages aren't expected. That's not exactly a vast majority that could support charging at home.
- coldpie 2y agoGood find! Interesting data in that. I don't think a garage is a requirement to charging at home, but that's still a fair point and a lower number than I expected.
- ianburrell 2y agoGarages aren't necessary for charging. There are outdoor car chargers that can mount on pole. It is a little harder to run the power to them but not that expensive. Similar chargers would work for apartment complex parking lots. It would even be possible to put chargers on street parking.
- jcranmer 2y agoThe way I interpret it, if you don't have a dedicated exclusive access to a parking space, you don't really have at-home charging, because the exclusive access is what gets rid of the need to negotiate with other people for access to the charger.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoI expect almost all detached homes to have a driveway, even if they do not have a garage.
- pornel 2y agoExclusive access is nice, but not necessary. BEVs used just for city driving need to be charged about once a week, so you just plug in when there's an opportunity. A basic 7kW charger is enough to charge full battery overnight.
- vel0city 2y agoThere are a lot of houses near me without garages but with covered carports with space to park 1-2 cars. So, some percentage of those 30m without a garage would still be able to have at-home charging. No idea on what that percentage would be though.
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y ago> In the US[1], about 70% of homes are detached or attached single-family homes[2]. Wrong statistic. You need the percentage of the population that lives in such a home vs. other arrangements.