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> being more assembly jobs back to North America Electronics Assembly jobs already exist in North America - but in Mexico. They aren't going to bring assembly

> being more assembly jobs back to North America Electronics Assembly jobs already exist in North America - but in Mexico. They aren't going to bring assembly jobs back to the US, because electronics assembly is very low value and low margins.

ta1243 2y ago
If you make $600 component + $200 laptop ($800) from outside the US cost say $8k through a 1000% tariff, you could assemble in the US for $1,000, buy the components for $6000, and sell for $7k. That's what the american people seem to want to happen.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  > That's what the american people seem to want to happen I'm American, and 50.2% of Americans did not vote for this. Realistically, it will not be that bad. Most companies will just up prices to make up the cost of the tariff and consumers will eat it.
  - Gormo 2y ago
    > I'm American, and 50.2% of Americans did not vote for this. In all fairness, a good portion of the other 49.8% probably didn't vote for this (or didn't know they were voting for it) either.
    - alephnerd 2y ago
      Yep! Most likely!
    - sangnoir 2y ago
      A good chunk of that cohort specifically voted against high inflation.
      - ta1243 2y ago
        Trump made it quite clear that he was going to dole out tariffs like Oprah giving away cars. This wasn't hidden, they specifically voted for higher prices.
        sangnoir 2y ago
        A surprising number of Trump voters do not understand how tariffs work and believe the exporting country pays. They are intentionally ignorant, so they'll tell you inflation is not the outcome they wanted, even though it's an obvious first order effect of the policies they support (see mass deportation)
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      If you vote for someone screaming "I'm gonna do X" and then they do X and you claim "I didn't know they were going to do X" That's WORSE than if you were just stupid or hateful. You chose to be willfully ignorant of something that was utterly trivial to check. They voted for it.
      - Gormo 2y ago
        A lot of people do not understand economics, and think that tariffs are somehow fees charged to foreign countries rather than taxes levied against domestic consumers and businesses. I've had this exact discussion more than once, and have heard people change their tune once they understood what tariffs actually are.

ta1243 2y ago

If you make $600 component + $200 laptop ($800) from outside the US cost say $8k through a 1000% tariff, you could assemble in the US for $1,000, buy the components for $6000, and sell for $7k. That's what the american people seem to want to happen.

alephnerd 2y ago
> That's what the american people seem to want to happen I'm American, and 50.2% of Americans did not vote for this. Realistically, it will not be that bad. Most companies will just up prices to make up the cost of the tariff and consumers will eat it.
- Gormo 2y ago
  > I'm American, and 50.2% of Americans did not vote for this. In all fairness, a good portion of the other 49.8% probably didn't vote for this (or didn't know they were voting for it) either.
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    Yep! Most likely!
  - sangnoir 2y ago
    A good chunk of that cohort specifically voted against high inflation.
    - ta1243 2y ago
      Trump made it quite clear that he was going to dole out tariffs like Oprah giving away cars. This wasn't hidden, they specifically voted for higher prices.
      - sangnoir 2y ago
        A surprising number of Trump voters do not understand how tariffs work and believe the exporting country pays. They are intentionally ignorant, so they'll tell you inflation is not the outcome they wanted, even though it's an obvious first order effect of the policies they support (see mass deportation)
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    If you vote for someone screaming "I'm gonna do X" and then they do X and you claim "I didn't know they were going to do X" That's WORSE than if you were just stupid or hateful. You chose to be willfully ignorant of something that was utterly trivial to check. They voted for it.
    - Gormo 2y ago
      A lot of people do not understand economics, and think that tariffs are somehow fees charged to foreign countries rather than taxes levied against domestic consumers and businesses. I've had this exact discussion more than once, and have heard people change their tune once they understood what tariffs actually are.