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For the low, low price of dooming Ukraine, rebooting Guantanamo Bay, and oppressing non-binary people :)

by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

stronglikedan 2y ago
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- jszymborski 2y ago
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/01/28/state-department-passport-gender-marker/77976486007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/01/28/state-... https://www.vox.com/politics/399502/transgender-passports-lgbtq-trump-marco-rubio-travel-gender https://www.vox.com/politics/399502/transgender-passports-lg...
  - Jysix 2y ago
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    - jszymborski 2y ago
      Freedom of movement / right to travel is a human right which is being denied to US citizens on the basis of their gender. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement
      - account42 2y ago
        > Fox handed over the documents, paid, and received a slip for pickup of her [sic] passport after January 28 > she [sic] was ultimately able to collect her [sic] new ID documents — albeit with the male identity marker — on February 3. So less than a week of delay during a transitionary period? That is after messing up the application with wrong information.
realo 2y ago
You forget to also mention the Gaza Riviera... The US should become the 11th province of Canada. "South Saskatchewan" might be a good name for it.
- p_ing 2y ago
  "Canada's Pants"
nashashmi 2y ago
Come on. Biden wanted the Ukraine war to weaken Russia which is why he never mentioned ceasefire. Gitmo is a scare tactic to stop immigration. NB people are not recognized but they can choose a gender. All This simplifies a huge number of issues. You can argue that he should be spending time on such matters. And for that I would be with you. But what about ism is not a response to a tariff increase.
- dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
  Funny how you don't mention what Ukraine wants. They're not interested in a ceasefire, never have been, because they know that just gives Russia the advantage and means Russia will eventual take all of Ukraine. People like you would have us negotiating with people who steal and defraud us as to how much they get to keep, instead of seeking actual safety and justice.
  - nashashmi 2y ago
    They want Nothing. But want the war to stop. But Zelensky is a comedian. He asked for being in Nato which started the whole war
    - dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
      You're literally repeating Russian propaganda. Even the simplest googling of the Ukrainian views on the war would reveal that none of that is true or relevant.
      - nashashmi 2y ago
        Ukraine doesn’t want the war to stop? Claiming they do is repeating Russian propaganda? Biden was using Ukraine like Nixon used Afghanistan against the Russians.
        dralley 2y ago
        Ukraine wants Russia to leave. They want the war to stop, but they aren't willing to agree to any terms. They don't want a Minsk 3 or worse.
riehwvfbk 2y ago
I wonder what it is about the liberally minded that causes a marked preference for death and decay. Stopping people from two closely related cultures from killing each other is "dooming". Fighting until the last Ukrainian is "supporting". Why can't Gaza be more like Dubai? Are you saying its people are somehow inferior and must depend on your handouts forever? Cleaning up Oakland is "gentrification" but letting criminals run the show is "cultural sensitivity". You have a dim view of the culture you are supposedly protecting then, no? I could go on and on.
- gambiting 2y ago
  >>I wonder what it is about the liberally minded that causes a marked preference for death and decay. It's the exact opposite - as a Pole, any kind of appeasement of Russia will cause more death and decay in the long term. The whole "oh we just need to stop fighting now to prevent more death" is stupid if Russia's intentions haven't changed. But that's just not my rambling - even Russia's generals and advisors think that conflict with NATO is "inevitable" in the next 10 years. European countries towards the EU's eastern borders also say that it's extremely likely that Russia will enter a direct conflict with NATO in 3-5 years. If that's your point of view(and it certainly is mine) - why wouldn't you keep fighting? Why wouldn't you arm Ukraine to the absolute teeth and kick Russia out with such decisive force that that it would cripple them for a long long time financially? Negotiating a shitty "peace" deal right now sure, will stop some deaths now, but will allow Russia to re-arm, recharge, built some more alliances and in few years come up with another bullshit reason to attack Ukraine again - and maybe this time they push into Poland too, because why not. And who knows if NATO will be around to save us if needed, maybe Eternal President Trump will say we haven't spent enough GDP to deserve being saved, or that he spoke with Putin and it's all good and we should just stop resisting. After all just few days ago he was asked if Russia should keep the land they took and said that well they lost a of men fighting for that land(!!!!!!!). It's terrifying. It's not a "liberal" mind - it's a mind of anyone whose country has been invaded by Russians in the past and can see where this is going.
  - bombcar 2y ago
    How does the above argument not lead to "why not just nuke Russia today, until it stops moving"?

For the low, low price of dooming Ukraine, rebooting Guantanamo Bay, and oppressing non-binary people :)

stronglikedan 2y ago

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jszymborski 2y ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/01/28/state-department-passport-gender-marker/77976486007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/01/28/state-... https://www.vox.com/politics/399502/transgender-passports-lgbtq-trump-marco-rubio-travel-gender https://www.vox.com/politics/399502/transgender-passports-lg...
- Jysix 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - jszymborski 2y ago
    Freedom of movement / right to travel is a human right which is being denied to US citizens on the basis of their gender. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement
    - account42 2y ago
      > Fox handed over the documents, paid, and received a slip for pickup of her [sic] passport after January 28 > she [sic] was ultimately able to collect her [sic] new ID documents — albeit with the male identity marker — on February 3. So less than a week of delay during a transitionary period? That is after messing up the application with wrong information.

realo 2y ago

You forget to also mention the Gaza Riviera... The US should become the 11th province of Canada. "South Saskatchewan" might be a good name for it.

p_ing 2y ago
"Canada's Pants"

nashashmi 2y ago

Come on. Biden wanted the Ukraine war to weaken Russia which is why he never mentioned ceasefire. Gitmo is a scare tactic to stop immigration. NB people are not recognized but they can choose a gender. All This simplifies a huge number of issues. You can argue that he should be spending time on such matters. And for that I would be with you. But what about ism is not a response to a tariff increase.

dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
Funny how you don't mention what Ukraine wants. They're not interested in a ceasefire, never have been, because they know that just gives Russia the advantage and means Russia will eventual take all of Ukraine. People like you would have us negotiating with people who steal and defraud us as to how much they get to keep, instead of seeking actual safety and justice.
- nashashmi 2y ago
  They want Nothing. But want the war to stop. But Zelensky is a comedian. He asked for being in Nato which started the whole war
  - dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
    You're literally repeating Russian propaganda. Even the simplest googling of the Ukrainian views on the war would reveal that none of that is true or relevant.
    - nashashmi 2y ago
      Ukraine doesn’t want the war to stop? Claiming they do is repeating Russian propaganda? Biden was using Ukraine like Nixon used Afghanistan against the Russians.
      - dralley 2y ago
        Ukraine wants Russia to leave. They want the war to stop, but they aren't willing to agree to any terms. They don't want a Minsk 3 or worse.

riehwvfbk 2y ago

I wonder what it is about the liberally minded that causes a marked preference for death and decay. Stopping people from two closely related cultures from killing each other is "dooming". Fighting until the last Ukrainian is "supporting". Why can't Gaza be more like Dubai? Are you saying its people are somehow inferior and must depend on your handouts forever? Cleaning up Oakland is "gentrification" but letting criminals run the show is "cultural sensitivity". You have a dim view of the culture you are supposedly protecting then, no? I could go on and on.

gambiting 2y ago
>>I wonder what it is about the liberally minded that causes a marked preference for death and decay. It's the exact opposite - as a Pole, any kind of appeasement of Russia will cause more death and decay in the long term. The whole "oh we just need to stop fighting now to prevent more death" is stupid if Russia's intentions haven't changed. But that's just not my rambling - even Russia's generals and advisors think that conflict with NATO is "inevitable" in the next 10 years. European countries towards the EU's eastern borders also say that it's extremely likely that Russia will enter a direct conflict with NATO in 3-5 years. If that's your point of view(and it certainly is mine) - why wouldn't you keep fighting? Why wouldn't you arm Ukraine to the absolute teeth and kick Russia out with such decisive force that that it would cripple them for a long long time financially? Negotiating a shitty "peace" deal right now sure, will stop some deaths now, but will allow Russia to re-arm, recharge, built some more alliances and in few years come up with another bullshit reason to attack Ukraine again - and maybe this time they push into Poland too, because why not. And who knows if NATO will be around to save us if needed, maybe Eternal President Trump will say we haven't spent enough GDP to deserve being saved, or that he spoke with Putin and it's all good and we should just stop resisting. After all just few days ago he was asked if Russia should keep the land they took and said that well they lost a of men fighting for that land(!!!!!!!). It's terrifying. It's not a "liberal" mind - it's a mind of anyone whose country has been invaded by Russians in the past and can see where this is going.
- bombcar 2y ago
  How does the above argument not lead to "why not just nuke Russia today, until it stops moving"?