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A very impressive debut. No doubt they benefited from all the research and discoveries that have preceded it. Maybe the best outcome of a competitive Grok is b
by xnx 2y ago
A very impressive debut. No doubt they benefited from all the research and discoveries that have preceded it.
Maybe the best outcome of a competitive Grok is breaking the mindshare stranglehold that ChatGPT has on the public at large and with HN. There are many good frontier models that are all very close in capabilities.
- nmca 2y agoThis is grok 3, so not a debut
- cj 2y agoMaybe this is Grok’s “ChatGPT moment”. Similar to how OpenAI’s debut was with GPT-3.5 (not their first version) Debut in the sense that it’s something good enough that it’s getting mainstream attention.
- bangaladore 2y agoIt is a debut of their thinking mode iirc. Unfortunately LLMs are shifting compute time to test time instead of train time. I don't really like this and frankly it shows a stalling of the architectures, data sets, etc...
- minihat 2y agoAnother take is that the base models are now good enough that spending more money for more intelligence is viable at test time. A threshold has been crossed.
- bangaladore 2y agoI guess I'd always thought the direct opposite. Naively, I feel to be useful, the goal of LLMs should be to more power efficient. So that eventually all devices can be smarter. Power efficiency can be gained through less time-time, or more "intelligence" or some combination of the two. I'm not convinced these SOTA models are doing much more than increasing test-time.
- holoduke 2y agoBiggest impacts on power efficiency will be the advances in node size and transistor type like nanosheet or forksheet. Algorithm will help just a little.
- CephalopodMD 2y agoGemini has been topping benchmarks and leaderboards for weeks if not months at this point. Nobody cares.