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DOGE is a rebranding of USDS which was established under Obama. All their authority to access systems derives from that. They have read-only access to systems

by imgabe 2y ago

DOGE is a rebranding of USDS which was established under Obama. All their authority to access systems derives from that. They have read-only access to systems and the “abuses” seem to be publicly posting what the government is spending money on. Why do you think it’s a problem for the public to know where the government spends money?

moolcool 2y ago
Government spending is mostly already public information. Ironically, it's DOGE itself which is trying it's best to act in secrecy.
- amazingamazing 2y ago
  The details of said spending is very much not public, and even if it was (it’s not) - it’s not accessible. If it's not true, would love to see links where I can see everything easily.
- imgabe 2y ago
  If they are cloaked in secrecy how do you know what you’re even mad about? The people who are tweeting everything they do are acting in secret? If all they are doing is posting information that was already public then what exactly is your problem?
  - moolcool 2y ago
    > If they are cloaked in secrecy how do you know what you’re even mad about? Do you hear yourself?
    - imgabe 2y ago
      Do you hear yourself? Name a specific thing you would like to know about DOGE that is not publicly disclosed.
      - moolcool 2y ago
        I could go into details (What are they doing to ensure data privacy? Can/do they exfiltrate data and run it through external AI models? What kind of security clearances do the children of DOGE have?). But just on the surface, Elon has accused a journalist who published the name of DOGE employees of breaking the law. If it were up to them, even that would be kept secret. This is not a transparent organization.
      - lawlessone 2y ago
        >Name a specific thing you would like to know about DOGE that is not publicly disclosed. Why one of the guys working for it was running a dodgy image sharing website and has links to cycbercrime and CSAM? and why Elon called the journos that revealed these links criminals?
cowpig 2y ago
> DOGE is a rebranding of USDS which was established under Obama. All their authority to access systems derives from that. OK I actually know what this is and no, it's absolutely nothing like the USDS, which builds tools to support government processes. What has DOGE built? > Why do you think it’s a problem for the public to know where the government spends money? I would very much like to see transparency, and if that were what DOGE was doing it would be great. But it looks to me like they're operating in secrecy and firing huge numbers of people before publishing any kind of analysis or study, without even providing reasoning for what they're doing.
- moolcool 2y ago
  > What has DOGE built? They built a portal to look at government spending, which is both worse than the existing visualizations, and did not put authentication in front of it's database. https://www.theverge.com/news/612865/doge-government-website-database-security-open https://www.theverge.com/news/612865/doge-government-website...

by imgabe 2y ago

moolcool 2y ago

Government spending is mostly already public information. Ironically, it's DOGE itself which is trying it's best to act in secrecy.

amazingamazing 2y ago
The details of said spending is very much not public, and even if it was (it’s not) - it’s not accessible. If it's not true, would love to see links where I can see everything easily.
imgabe 2y ago
If they are cloaked in secrecy how do you know what you’re even mad about? The people who are tweeting everything they do are acting in secret? If all they are doing is posting information that was already public then what exactly is your problem?
- moolcool 2y ago
  > If they are cloaked in secrecy how do you know what you’re even mad about? Do you hear yourself?
  - imgabe 2y ago
    Do you hear yourself? Name a specific thing you would like to know about DOGE that is not publicly disclosed.
    - moolcool 2y ago
      I could go into details (What are they doing to ensure data privacy? Can/do they exfiltrate data and run it through external AI models? What kind of security clearances do the children of DOGE have?). But just on the surface, Elon has accused a journalist who published the name of DOGE employees of breaking the law. If it were up to them, even that would be kept secret. This is not a transparent organization.
    - lawlessone 2y ago
      >Name a specific thing you would like to know about DOGE that is not publicly disclosed. Why one of the guys working for it was running a dodgy image sharing website and has links to cycbercrime and CSAM? and why Elon called the journos that revealed these links criminals?

cowpig 2y ago

> DOGE is a rebranding of USDS which was established under Obama. All their authority to access systems derives from that. OK I actually know what this is and no, it's absolutely nothing like the USDS, which builds tools to support government processes. What has DOGE built? > Why do you think it’s a problem for the public to know where the government spends money? I would very much like to see transparency, and if that were what DOGE was doing it would be great. But it looks to me like they're operating in secrecy and firing huge numbers of people before publishing any kind of analysis or study, without even providing reasoning for what they're doing.

moolcool 2y ago
> What has DOGE built? They built a portal to look at government spending, which is both worse than the existing visualizations, and did not put authentication in front of it's database. https://www.theverge.com/news/612865/doge-government-website-database-security-open https://www.theverge.com/news/612865/doge-government-website...