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I do not share your fear & anxiety. What concrete danger do you imagine will happen as a result of xAI? Try to be as concrete as possible. Also, dang, is there

by srid 2y ago

I do not share your fear & anxiety. What concrete danger do you imagine will happen as a result of xAI? Try to be as concrete as possible. Also, dang, is there anything we can do to keep the comments on this submission tech-focused? Perhaps the Elon-bashing political digression can be split into its own thread?

Arubis 2y ago
Tech is the most powerful force in the modern economy. There is no making it not political. "Tech isn't political" _is a political statement_.
wezdog1 2y ago
I do not share your fear & anxiety so please dont share yours.
digdugdirk 2y ago
The concrete danger isn't necessarily with xAI (the product) but with Elon being the one who is in control of it. LLMs are an interesting technology, and we should absolutely be investing in pushing our understanding of the technology forward. We should absolutely not be relying on them for the ongoing functioning of our government: https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/musk-doge-ai-government-efficiency-safeguards https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/musk-doge-ai-government-eff... Unfortunately, Elon has made himself a spectacle. To separate him and his intentions out from the technology itself would be a disservice to the discourse as a whole.
- srid 2y ago
  Hmm, I'm only too happy to rephrase my question, then. What concrete danger do you imagine will happen as a result of xAI being controlled by Elon? Try to be as concrete as possible.
  - katbyte 2y ago
    he will bias it toward his views and favoured outcomes like he did twitter and those are pretty terrible, anti-science, and petty
spiderfarmer 2y ago
How is this Elon-bashing? Address his concerns. Elon is not a king that shouldn't be questioned. Quite the contrary.
cbm-vic-20 2y ago
The problem, as I see it, is that the results from AI systems will either be used to make decisions, even if those results are flawed. Or worse, those flawed results will be used to justify decisions that negatively impact peoples' lives. This isn't something specific to xAI, but it turns out that the person who controls xAI also holds an unusually strong influence over the highest level government officials. These officials can use xAI as an excuse to implement harmful policy, "because the computer said this is the best course of action"- not unlike people who end up driving on train tracks or into large bodies of water because their GPS told them to go that way.
- troyvit 2y ago
  I think this comment sums it up well. As soon as advanced LLMs started making a splash we all saw the writing on the wall. AI will start taking on large chunks of cognitive load across industry, government, etc. that humans formerly held (It has already been a strong driver in finance). I for one was ready to welcome my AI overlords once they were mature and tested. It was an inevitability. Because of the relationship between this oligarch and the government though it looks like the time line has accelerated and we're going to see misplaced trust in tools that aren't ready for what we're about to hand them.
MrMan 2y ago
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by srid 2y ago

Arubis 2y ago

Tech is the most powerful force in the modern economy. There is no making it not political. "Tech isn't political" _is a political statement_.

wezdog1 2y ago

I do not share your fear & anxiety so please dont share yours.

digdugdirk 2y ago

The concrete danger isn't necessarily with xAI (the product) but with Elon being the one who is in control of it. LLMs are an interesting technology, and we should absolutely be investing in pushing our understanding of the technology forward. We should absolutely not be relying on them for the ongoing functioning of our government: https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/musk-doge-ai-government-efficiency-safeguards https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/musk-doge-ai-government-eff... Unfortunately, Elon has made himself a spectacle. To separate him and his intentions out from the technology itself would be a disservice to the discourse as a whole.

srid 2y ago
Hmm, I'm only too happy to rephrase my question, then. What concrete danger do you imagine will happen as a result of xAI being controlled by Elon? Try to be as concrete as possible.
- katbyte 2y ago
  he will bias it toward his views and favoured outcomes like he did twitter and those are pretty terrible, anti-science, and petty

spiderfarmer 2y ago

How is this Elon-bashing? Address his concerns. Elon is not a king that shouldn't be questioned. Quite the contrary.

cbm-vic-20 2y ago

The problem, as I see it, is that the results from AI systems will either be used to make decisions, even if those results are flawed. Or worse, those flawed results will be used to justify decisions that negatively impact peoples' lives. This isn't something specific to xAI, but it turns out that the person who controls xAI also holds an unusually strong influence over the highest level government officials. These officials can use xAI as an excuse to implement harmful policy, "because the computer said this is the best course of action"- not unlike people who end up driving on train tracks or into large bodies of water because their GPS told them to go that way.

troyvit 2y ago
I think this comment sums it up well. As soon as advanced LLMs started making a splash we all saw the writing on the wall. AI will start taking on large chunks of cognitive load across industry, government, etc. that humans formerly held (It has already been a strong driver in finance). I for one was ready to welcome my AI overlords once they were mature and tested. It was an inevitability. Because of the relationship between this oligarch and the government though it looks like the time line has accelerated and we're going to see misplaced trust in tools that aren't ready for what we're about to hand them.

MrMan 2y ago

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