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Other than having the drawings floating around it didn't seem that useful. Nice thick pair of eye protection, though. But I guess it's mostly a problem with th

Other than having the drawings floating around it didn't seem that useful. Nice thick pair of eye protection, though. But I guess it's mostly a problem with the tooling not being there. There could be made more special applications helping you to assemble a box, for instance, telling you exactly what to do and even live feedback. I do balk on not looking directly at the power tools while using them, though. On an aside, living in a small apartment it's a bit of a hassle every time I want to do some wood working as I spend more time cleaning dust of everything after than actually working, which of course makes the hurdle of sitting down and doing my projects greater than it needs to. Like, I only do it a day where I can work 4-5 hours and then clean, as it's not worth it to do all the cleaning for 30 minutes of progress an afternoon. But to fix this (I mostly do wood carving with a dremel, sanding etc) I built a "glove box" this weekend. Holes for my arms with elastic band sewn into some fabric so it fits snugly. Then a computer fan connected to a random vacuum filter creates a negative pressure so no wood dust escapes and instead falls to the bottom or into the filter. Also doubles as a storage unit for my tools when not in use. https://imgur.com/a/JhdrOft https://imgur.com/a/JhdrOft

fatnoah 2y ago
> But I guess it's mostly a problem with the tooling not being there. For me, it's the tooling plus AR glasses that have roughly the same form factor as my safety glasses. Having plans in front of me, ability to measure distance and angles to within a centimeter, etc. would be nice enhancements to my workflow. A "where did I leave that tool?" feature would be very frequently used.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Finding tools requires an indoor positioning system which is somewhat different to vr headset.
  - mauvehaus 2y ago
    To solve the general problem, sure, but the tool I'm looking for is usually one I was just using and mindlessly set down somewhere I shouldn't have. If the VR headset could recognize tools and remember where in the shop I set them down, it could do the trick just fine. That's how I usually find them, after all. When that fails me, my fallback plan is to start cleaning, which turns up what I'm looking for in pretty short order.
    - llm_trw 2y ago
      That's not something AR headsets do. That is a arbitrary object detection problem, which is in general harder to solve than just using an ips.
- aaron695 2y ago
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latexr 2y ago
> Nice thick pair of eye protection, though. I wonder. These aren’t built for protection and have a ton of components inside, so it seems plausible that an impact may instead break stuff on the inside with direct access to your eyes, making it worse. And if passthrough lags at a crucial moment, bye bye body part.
- andybak 2y ago
  I've never seen passthrough lag of any significance. It has on very rare occusations frozen, however. (I can only recall a single incident of that in 5 years)
  - latexr 2y ago
    Once is all it takes. I’d rather have a headset fail five thousand times but they’re all when playing a game, then having it fail just once when I’m dealing with power tools.
- nytesky 2y ago
  Ha, as the OP posed it as a question: “what will happen…” and I was going to answer “lose a limb” The eye angle is even more troubling, to be frank. If I’m brining 2024 tech into wood shop, let’s make it robotic hands!
- orbital-decay 2y ago
  It's absolutely not sufficient, and the lag has nothing to do with it. Wood dust is nasty, it tends to get through slightest cracks, and the protection has to be airtight. I've been sanding an old log cabin with an angle grinder before repainting it, and I had to visit an ophthalmologist to pick a piece of dust from my eye. I had safety glasses that looked exactly like [1] and the holes were enough for the dust to enter. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Safety_Goggles.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Safety_G...
jmcgough 2y ago
> I do balk on not looking directly at the power tools while using them, though. I might be nervous to use power tools, but passthrough tech has gotten amazing over the last 2-3 years. I just hope we can shrink the headsets down a bit more.
opwieurposiu 2y ago
That glove box came out real nice, what a good idea. I inhaled too much dust as a young man and eventually became sensitive to it. Now I have to wear a respirator all the time. It is smart to contain the dust in your appt since you spend so much time breathing the air there.

fatnoah 2y ago

> But I guess it's mostly a problem with the tooling not being there. For me, it's the tooling plus AR glasses that have roughly the same form factor as my safety glasses. Having plans in front of me, ability to measure distance and angles to within a centimeter, etc. would be nice enhancements to my workflow. A "where did I leave that tool?" feature would be very frequently used.

llm_trw 2y ago
Finding tools requires an indoor positioning system which is somewhat different to vr headset.
- mauvehaus 2y ago
  To solve the general problem, sure, but the tool I'm looking for is usually one I was just using and mindlessly set down somewhere I shouldn't have. If the VR headset could recognize tools and remember where in the shop I set them down, it could do the trick just fine. That's how I usually find them, after all. When that fails me, my fallback plan is to start cleaning, which turns up what I'm looking for in pretty short order.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    That's not something AR headsets do. That is a arbitrary object detection problem, which is in general harder to solve than just using an ips.
aaron695 2y ago
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latexr 2y ago

> Nice thick pair of eye protection, though. I wonder. These aren’t built for protection and have a ton of components inside, so it seems plausible that an impact may instead break stuff on the inside with direct access to your eyes, making it worse. And if passthrough lags at a crucial moment, bye bye body part.

andybak 2y ago
I've never seen passthrough lag of any significance. It has on very rare occusations frozen, however. (I can only recall a single incident of that in 5 years)
- latexr 2y ago
  Once is all it takes. I’d rather have a headset fail five thousand times but they’re all when playing a game, then having it fail just once when I’m dealing with power tools.
nytesky 2y ago
Ha, as the OP posed it as a question: “what will happen…” and I was going to answer “lose a limb” The eye angle is even more troubling, to be frank. If I’m brining 2024 tech into wood shop, let’s make it robotic hands!
orbital-decay 2y ago
It's absolutely not sufficient, and the lag has nothing to do with it. Wood dust is nasty, it tends to get through slightest cracks, and the protection has to be airtight. I've been sanding an old log cabin with an angle grinder before repainting it, and I had to visit an ophthalmologist to pick a piece of dust from my eye. I had safety glasses that looked exactly like [1] and the holes were enough for the dust to enter. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Safety_Goggles.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Safety_G...

jmcgough 2y ago

> I do balk on not looking directly at the power tools while using them, though. I might be nervous to use power tools, but passthrough tech has gotten amazing over the last 2-3 years. I just hope we can shrink the headsets down a bit more.

opwieurposiu 2y ago

That glove box came out real nice, what a good idea. I inhaled too much dust as a young man and eventually became sensitive to it. Now I have to wear a respirator all the time. It is smart to contain the dust in your appt since you spend so much time breathing the air there.