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It will come to EU countries eventually, but it takes a long time to go through "conformity assessments". Notebook LM, for example, was geoblocked for the EU fo

It will come to EU countries eventually, but it takes a long time to go through "conformity assessments". Notebook LM, for example, was geoblocked for the EU for a full year before it became available in June. Grok 1 was released everywhere else in the world in November 2023, and in the EU in May 2024. About a 6 month delay.

littlestymaar 2y ago
> Grok 1 was released everywhere else in the world in November 2023, and in the EU in May 2024. About a 6 month delay. And here you should see that it has nothing to do with the AI act, as it wasn't enacted before last August! Furthermore, neither Grok 1 nor Notebook LM would have been subject to the AI act even if it had existed at the time. As I said before, all of these companies have vested interests against EU's legislation as a whole, and they've tried to blackmail the EU from the beginning. They didn't wait for an actual AI legislation to exist to use AI as just another blackmailing tool.
- weberer 2y ago
  Apparently EU regulators were blocking it for unspecified reasons until an agreement was made in May. And even then, they blocked news summaries until after the EU elections. If you can find more info, feel free to cite it. Info about these behind-the-scenes dealings are hard to find online. https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/xs-formally-twitter-grok-ai-chatbot-available-eu-users/716282/ https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/xs-formally-twitter-gr...
  - littlestymaar 2y ago
    The regulation that the author of this article think about is DSA, even if not named directly. See this quote: > Well, probably because Grok has already spread various false stories (The European regulation that deals with disinformation is DSA). And again it couldn't be the AI Act, because it wasn't in place at that time!
- cle 2y ago
  I think you're misapplying the term "blackmail" here and thus poisoning the well. The EU is applying pressure to companies and companies are applying pressure back--that's not blackmail. They each have their own means of leverage, and they both use them.
  - littlestymaar 2y ago
    First of all both sides don't have the same level of legitimacy and then one side is blatantly lying about its intent by claiming that they are blocked by regulations instead of admitting that they are putting pressure (because they know they have no legitimacy to “apply pressure” on democratic institutions).

littlestymaar 2y ago

> Grok 1 was released everywhere else in the world in November 2023, and in the EU in May 2024. About a 6 month delay. And here you should see that it has nothing to do with the AI act, as it wasn't enacted before last August! Furthermore, neither Grok 1 nor Notebook LM would have been subject to the AI act even if it had existed at the time. As I said before, all of these companies have vested interests against EU's legislation as a whole, and they've tried to blackmail the EU from the beginning. They didn't wait for an actual AI legislation to exist to use AI as just another blackmailing tool.

weberer 2y ago
Apparently EU regulators were blocking it for unspecified reasons until an agreement was made in May. And even then, they blocked news summaries until after the EU elections. If you can find more info, feel free to cite it. Info about these behind-the-scenes dealings are hard to find online. https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/xs-formally-twitter-grok-ai-chatbot-available-eu-users/716282/ https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/xs-formally-twitter-gr...
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  The regulation that the author of this article think about is DSA, even if not named directly. See this quote: > Well, probably because Grok has already spread various false stories (The European regulation that deals with disinformation is DSA). And again it couldn't be the AI Act, because it wasn't in place at that time!
cle 2y ago
I think you're misapplying the term "blackmail" here and thus poisoning the well. The EU is applying pressure to companies and companies are applying pressure back--that's not blackmail. They each have their own means of leverage, and they both use them.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  First of all both sides don't have the same level of legitimacy and then one side is blatantly lying about its intent by claiming that they are blocked by regulations instead of admitting that they are putting pressure (because they know they have no legitimacy to “apply pressure” on democratic institutions).