>It would be VERY cool if gravelmap let you input a start and end point and gave you a best route suggestion. This is exactly why gravelmap and googlemaps isn'

>It would be VERY cool if gravelmap let you input a start and end point and gave you a best route suggestion. This is exactly why gravelmap and googlemaps isn't cool - the data is siloed. When the data is open people can build their own routing engines: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Routing https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_servic... B-router is good, but like all of them, constrained by data quality: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BRouter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BRouter https://bikerouter.de/ https://bikerouter.de/ is running brouter-web and has some gravel routing profiles installed. The FFMbyBicycle profile has an experimental car-avoiding option. The new b-router support for pseudotags looks useful (PDF) https://brouter.de/essbee/infoPseudoTags.html https://brouter.de/essbee/infoPseudoTags.html for tracking rivers and avoiding paths adjacent to roads. Another way of looking at the data with Overpass Turbo: https://little-maps.com/2022/03/05/planning-a-gravel-ride-this-great-map-shows-all-paved-and-unpaved-roads/ https://little-maps.com/2022/03/05/planning-a-gravel-ride-th...