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> "don't fuck up the franchise." Were they asleep while filming the more recent star wars films?

by guappa 2y ago

ghaff 2y ago
For me the nadir was the prequel series although I also think The Phantom Menace poisoned the well for the other two which weren't terrible. The more recent films have been a mixed bag with them generally being better the further they are from the original story arc. For me at least, there's also a certain fatigue factor. While I like The Mandalorian and Rogue One, I'm pretty much done with the franchise. See also Star Trek and MCU. That said, I know that there are a lot of fans who will take pretty much anything you throw out even if they like to belly-ache about it.
- guappa 2y ago
  Well I was phantom menace as a kid and I liked it :D
  - triceratops 2y ago
    > I was phantom menace as a kid That's good. Most kids are menaces to your face /s
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
That's a great example of each director being given too much freedom, or alternatively, creating a trilogy sequel without writing the story beforehand. I have no idea how they managed or allowed to mess that up so bad. It feels like they were just winging it, a creative outlet more than making up for the interesting choices they made in the prequels or the backdrop of the next decade of a multi-billion merchandise franchise.
- WorldMaker 2y ago
  To be fair, the original trilogy winged it just as much, including a very similar pattern of writer and director shifts with the original director coming back for the third part as a last minute fill-in, and a lot of people at the time complained Empire Strikes Back to Ewoks was a tonal shift as bad or worse than people complain about Last Jedi and Return of the Jedi. Contrary to all of George's talk of a "grand plan", Star Wars was always an adventure serial where winging it was the plan. (Also, George's "grand plan" itself still cracks me up as a kid who guessed to much of it reading the weird novelization, especially since Ars Technica got him to admit to it. Have you heard about the Whills?)
  - guappa 2y ago
    At least that was before those studio guys even existed. No excuse now though.

> "don't fuck up the franchise." Were they asleep while filming the more recent star wars films?

by guappa 2y ago

> "don't fuck up the franchise." Were they asleep while filming the more recent star wars films?

For me the nadir was the prequel series although I also think The Phantom Menace poisoned the well for the other two which weren't terrible. The more recent films have been a mixed bag with them generally being better the further they are from the original story arc. For me at least, there's also a certain fatigue factor. While I like The Mandalorian and Rogue One, I'm pretty much done with the franchise. See also Star Trek and MCU. That said, I know that there are a lot of fans who will take pretty much anything you throw out even if they like to belly-ache about it.

guappa 2y ago
Well I was phantom menace as a kid and I liked it :D
- triceratops 2y ago
  > I was phantom menace as a kid That's good. Most kids are menaces to your face /s

Cthulhu_ 2y ago

That's a great example of each director being given too much freedom, or alternatively, creating a trilogy sequel without writing the story beforehand. I have no idea how they managed or allowed to mess that up so bad. It feels like they were just winging it, a creative outlet more than making up for the interesting choices they made in the prequels or the backdrop of the next decade of a multi-billion merchandise franchise.

WorldMaker 2y ago
To be fair, the original trilogy winged it just as much, including a very similar pattern of writer and director shifts with the original director coming back for the third part as a last minute fill-in, and a lot of people at the time complained Empire Strikes Back to Ewoks was a tonal shift as bad or worse than people complain about Last Jedi and Return of the Jedi. Contrary to all of George's talk of a "grand plan", Star Wars was always an adventure serial where winging it was the plan. (Also, George's "grand plan" itself still cracks me up as a kid who guessed to much of it reading the weird novelization, especially since Ars Technica got him to admit to it. Have you heard about the Whills?)
- guappa 2y ago
  At least that was before those studio guys even existed. No excuse now though.