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I've looked into red light at least a handful of nights, I never can come away with a conclusion. It seems like it helps, but it also seems super likely it does
by nwienert 2y ago
I've looked into red light at least a handful of nights, I never can come away with a conclusion. It seems like it helps, but it also seems super likely it doesn't do much. I've added the super high intensity arrays to my cart even, before reading into various studies and anecdotes and just not being convinced.
What's the most convincing argument for it?
- theoreticalmal 2y agoYou seem like you’re hoping someone will convince you to try it. Why don’t you get a cheap one and give it a shot and see if you feel any different?
- nwienert 2y agoI typically don’t buy things unless I feel they have some utility, and it seems the cheap ones likely don’t do enough to notice.
- its-summertime 2y agoLight is light.
- ben_w 2y agoSome wavelengths don't penetrate so deep, and not all bulbs are the same brightness. I've seen obvious lies on some product descriptions on internet listings, therefore I wouldn't trust a specification claim like "x nm" or "y lumen", and unless I had tools to measure them I would not rely on them meeting those specifications.
- PeterStuer 2y agoLumen does not measure much red light.
- ben_w 2y agoLumens being perceputual brightness means any package listing it for IR is definitely lying; but that only makes it a first-pass filter, "no false positives" does not mean "no false negatives". e.g. even when it's about visible light, well, do you trust this claim of 500,000 lumen?: https://www.amazon.de/Shadowhawk-Rechargeable-Extremely-Waterproof-Emergencies/dp/B099S4CR82/ref=mp_s_a_1_14_sspa?crid=3ME1GUAUAQW3M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rh7FTpSGCyMorJnM69NNjPk3kR6q-fUx7my6W6A07lKkMrJlSbO56gSQC80ueRI-8IVNhj49zKIeHDQECwewKZhEJHBPNtQlVv1E0dsjUWbWmtSUS-yzDqoQ3JBRJeTJzWstZO3Wn9ZQxq26D3O6_Q3Rwcvi7CnmGRF1VpKo6Nk9fgmYCzPpCMqpgYvph1Hwa8kdIftD_ouZ7u1NcMMv4w.O8DOQKOrFgsd3g5-PyDxBRxsxAJAn5co_xEK6_XA4Ys&dib_tag=se&keywords=million+lumen&qid=1739873150&sprefix=million+lumen%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-14-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfbXRm&psc=1 https://www.amazon.de/Shadowhawk-Rechargeable-Extremely-Wate...
- zimpenfish 2y ago> do you trust this claim of 500,000 lumen? Having watched Torque Test Channel test[0] these[1] kinds[2] of claims, no, no I do not. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp8dumORMA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp8dumORMA0 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPQKeeYTfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBPQKeeYTfo [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceA5xL6ggEw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceA5xL6ggEw
- its-summertime 2y agoYeah but like, don't buy from temu or something, buy from digikey etc and just wire it yourself, its cheap enough to be able to fail 20 times without costing more than a burger.
- bethekind 2y agoBuild your own. But direct from Alibaba or mouser or digikey. The main science behind it is to hit the absorption peaks of a mitochondrial enzyme. You can make em bright, but be limited on how long you can use it, or dim and be forced to use it constantly for the same effect. Pulse width modulation is very important in this for penetration. High intensity allows for deeper penetration, but heats up cells causing stress. The ideal scenario is a really strong light, run at a really low duty cycle, allowing for both intensity AND low average wattage, this lessening thermal issues There might be other mechanisms of actions, as there are so many papers that say "light good", but until they can give a mechanism of action, I'm sticking with what I know
- Fethbita 2y agoI have been wanting one of these and on multiple occasions tried to find some good quality lights. I have not been able to find one that I feel is trustworthy. Do you have any EU based recommendations?
- ankitml 2y agoget a broad spectrum red light bulb, that is most well understood and is least risky. Cons is the targetted spectrum would be only a small portion of it but good thing is it is a 4$ cheap test. It worked for me for smaller issues, like minor burns, cuts etc.
- kenjackson 2y agoI've used it for a while now on my knees and ankles. Seems like it works. But honestly its hard for me to tell if anything works. I even question Tylenol. All of it seems like it may work some, but its not something I feel has a very acute impact at all. Without a controlled study, as an individual, how can I tell if my sprain got better in 6 days but would've taken 9 days otherwise???
- anon84873628 2y agoYou might want to look into BPC-157
- andreareina 2y agoBPC 157 has little to no reliable data to say it works. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6WLUUia6qZjVredWBuOlr6 https://open.spotify.com/episode/6WLUUia6qZjVredWBuOlr6
- cjbgkagh 2y agoA fair amount of anecdotal data though, it has helped me and others that I know. While the effect is pretty mild it is positive. Having a lifelong chronic condition I’m very sensitive to changes and have no discernible placebo effect. I’ve tried so many things that my prior belief when trying something new is that it wont work, so it’s a nice unexpected surprise when it does.
- BobaFloutist 2y agoGhosts have a fair amount of anecdotal data. Homeopathy has a fair amount of anecdotal data.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoI am aware of survivorship bias but for that to apply BPC157 would have to be killing people, this peptide is widely used so if it was killing people we would know due to investigations into their deaths. People usually hear about this stuff peer to peer and they report back to their peers if it helped or not, so there is a before and after, and for those people there isn’t a selection criteria biased on success. If people don’t report back then others become very interested in why.
- unclad5968 2y agoJust go outside, there is lots of IR out there. If it feels good then get whatever gadget you want to emulate it inside.
- bethekind 2y agoMost of the stuff online is overpriced and beyond the mitochondrial enzyme absorption spectrum, I can't find any reasonable mechanism for action. I think your hesitance is valid