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I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it. Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why
by WalterBright 2y ago
I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it.
Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport.
If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24/7, why can't a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?
- MichaelZuo 2y agoHow do you know there aren’t any? It seems a lot more likely the security managers aren’t in a hurry to release them to the public.
- WalterBright 2y ago> How do you know there aren’t any? Have you ever seen one?
- MichaelZuo 2y agoIf you mean in the terminal, then yes? I’ve been to Pearson plenty of times. They could all have malfunctioned at the time, but I doubt it.
- ceejayoz 2y agoAt an airport? They’re everywhere. Even the little tiny general aviation ones. My dad flies out of I69. Their tower & ramp cameras are broadcast live. https://www.sportys.com/webcams https://www.sportys.com/webcams
- DC-3 2y agoSure, the Aeroflot Sukhoi crash a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgWSwbXMehI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgWSwbXMehI
- ceejayoz 2y agoOr last year's crash in Japan when an airliner hit a coast guard plane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7IEaHTlaTU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7IEaHTlaTU
- WalterBright 2y agoOk, that is one, that's what I'm talking about.
- WalterBright 2y agoIt's a tower video, but we also see the operator moving the camera to catch it. I would expect to see cameras passively covering the entire runway, and not needing an operator to frame it. The reason is the operator may miss something else happening, or may be distracted at the critical moment.
- DC-3 2y agoI'm pretty sure it's a very wide angle camera and the operator is panning through the recording in a software viewer.
- zipzop9 2y ago[flagged]
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- Spooky23 2y agoYou’re right. Toronto is a small village, like a exurb of Irkutusk. They may not have electricity yet.
- loloquwowndueo 2y agoPretty sure the video exists, it just hasn’t been released to the public.
- brk 2y agoThere often are surveillance cameras on the tarmac. I’ve been involved in many airport surveillance projects with cameras covering the perimeters and operations areas. They just might not want to publicize the camera coverages.
- culi 2y agoSeems like it crashed pretty far away from any residential areas
- dmix 2y agoIt's also been snowing in Toronto all day with high winds and heavy snow squals. If you were standing in the huge pile of snow outside with a camera you probably wouldn't have seen it.
- cr125rider 2y agoIt was on the runway
- ceejayoz 2y agoVideo is making the rounds on Reddit now. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1irzxqr/crash_footage_of_delta_airlines_from_a_cctv/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1irzxq...
- readyplayernull 2y agoStandard UFO-sighting footage.
- typeofhuman 2y ago"If it had any less pixels it would be radio"
- ceejayoz 2y agoI mean, it's someone leaking footage by videoing another screen. I fully expect a clearer version to be released officially later.
- lazyasciiart 2y agoJust think, people used to watch entire films this way.
- Sateeshm 2y agoAnd we liked it
- silisili 2y agoIt -is- pretty pathetic. My floodlights have better resolution, and I'm just a nobody consumer interested in watching wildlife move about.
- DidYaWipe 2y agoLook out: If you criticize the video quality you'll get downvoted. See above.
- llm_nerd 2y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/GtFe8WfUQO https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/GtFe8WfUQO It came down really, really hard, gear collapsed asymmetrically it seems, causing it to roll to the side and sheer one wing off then start rolling. And FWIW, the conditions of the runway were, by all reports, excellent. It was considered "dry" conditions.
- beerandt 2y agoATC calls out gusts at 33kts on his clearance call. Not excellent, especially if it's cross.
- llm_nerd 2y agoRunway conditions and landing conditions are not the same. The landing conditions were challenging. The runway conditions were considered dry. This is in contrast to various comments, including in here, bizarrely claiming that the runway had inches of "packed snow" and so on, apparently based upon a final crash scene that wasn't actually on the runway.
- beerandt 2y agoOk but 1) both are critical and 2) if it's been snowing and there's 33kt gusts idk how the runway stays snow/ice/moisture free.
- WalterBright 2y agoLooks like security cam footage. Not one set up to view the flight ops, as the view is obstructed by a building and a fence.
- llm_nerd 2y agoYou said "I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it.". This is video of the crash. What's the problem? Airports have cameras of course, though they have no obligation or value in providing it to placate social medias rush for content.
- aqueueaqueue 2y agoThis is decent. https://x.com/Tr19192/status/1891579967042908439/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1891579967042908439¤tTweetUser=Tr19192 https://x.com/Tr19192/status/1891579967042908439/mediaViewer...
- _moof 2y agoThere absolutely are cameras recording the entire airport surface. The people in charge of them don't usually have "I should post this to the internet" as their first thought. Some airports do stream them though.
- jagged-chisel 2y agoNor do they have permission to do so.
- dylan604 2y agoIt's like that footage you see of crowds of people standing around videoing someone in trouble rather than actually attempting to help or even use that phone to call for help. Nope. Gotta get those hits on their social is their primary function. I don't care if you think someone else has already called for help, make the damn call. If it was you that needed the help, what would you want someone else to do for you?
- dylan604 2y agoIf SpaceX can put rockets that produce live feeds of a craft re-entering the atmosphere, we should definitely have dashcams in every cockpit. Wing/tail tips would be cool too even if just to have those seatback screens have actual images. Then again, we still can't definitively say what happened to MH370.
- zipzop9 2y ago[flagged]
- DidYaWipe 2y agoUsually the video is shot on a phone with the camera oriented the wrong way, and the plane always goes behind a structure just before impact. But that doesn't stop breathless click-bait headlines proclaiming that the crash was "caught on video."
- rtkwe 2y agoIt also just takes time for those videos to get uploaded and spread. We already have 2 good videos from the approach end of the runway; one released by TMZ from a CCTV camera and one from a pilot waiting for their turn to take off. Best one so far is this one from the next in line plane that would have taken off next: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1isabv4/another_angle_of_the_crj_crash_at_toronto_today/ https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1isabv4/another_a...