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For what purpose? Do you think that if the meth smuggler had been met by two or more officers he would have acted differently?

lupusreal 2y ago
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- MichaelZuo 2y ago
  How is this more plausible then any of the alternative explanations? e.g. the decision makers could be incompetent, they might not care that much, they had some other contradicting information not publicly revealed, etc…
- nkurz 2y ago
  I appreciate the info, hadn't heard about the Jarott case, and I hadn't considered this possible angle. That said, I don't think Maland was alone when he was shot. Details haven't been released, but the initial reporting was clear that multiple officers were involved. Here for example is the AP: "Youngblut got out and opened fire on Maland and other officers without warning, the FBI said. Bauckholt tried to draw a gun but was shot, according to the affidavit. At least one border agent fired on Youngblut and Bauckholt, but authorities haven’t specified whose bullets hit whom." https://apnews.com/article/vermont-border-patrol-shooting-what-to-know-9e47fcaebcd0021930e1ea1eedb1c335 https://apnews.com/article/vermont-border-patrol-shooting-wh... Have you seen any later reporting that contradicts this?
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  They? There is no they. No plan. No conspiracy . Just a guy who gets up in the morning to write speeding tickets to fill a counties chest, while also filter feeding for outstanding warrants running into two armed psychos.The observation team (aka sigint fat dude) has zero connection to the traffic cop.
  - lupusreal 2y ago
    At least in the case of Darian Jarott, he absolutely was directed by his boss to pull over the smuggler. "A State Police supervisor had asked Jarrott to pull over Cueva-Felix at the behest of federal agents" https://apnews.com/article/officer-killed-new-mexico-highway-shooting-4150b013a1f6786ce4a396999d98f8eb https://apnews.com/article/officer-killed-new-mexico-highway... In the case of David Maland, the chance of it being a completely normal "traffic stop" by a federal border patrol agent (who's job is not to fill the counties chest by writing tickets, as you incorrectly state), completely unrelated to these people being under surveillance at the time for being armed and in tactical gear, is dubious to put it mildly.

lupusreal 2y ago

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MichaelZuo 2y ago
How is this more plausible then any of the alternative explanations? e.g. the decision makers could be incompetent, they might not care that much, they had some other contradicting information not publicly revealed, etc…
nkurz 2y ago
I appreciate the info, hadn't heard about the Jarott case, and I hadn't considered this possible angle. That said, I don't think Maland was alone when he was shot. Details haven't been released, but the initial reporting was clear that multiple officers were involved. Here for example is the AP: "Youngblut got out and opened fire on Maland and other officers without warning, the FBI said. Bauckholt tried to draw a gun but was shot, according to the affidavit. At least one border agent fired on Youngblut and Bauckholt, but authorities haven’t specified whose bullets hit whom." https://apnews.com/article/vermont-border-patrol-shooting-what-to-know-9e47fcaebcd0021930e1ea1eedb1c335 https://apnews.com/article/vermont-border-patrol-shooting-wh... Have you seen any later reporting that contradicts this?
ashoeafoot 2y ago
They? There is no they. No plan. No conspiracy . Just a guy who gets up in the morning to write speeding tickets to fill a counties chest, while also filter feeding for outstanding warrants running into two armed psychos.The observation team (aka sigint fat dude) has zero connection to the traffic cop.
- lupusreal 2y ago
  At least in the case of Darian Jarott, he absolutely was directed by his boss to pull over the smuggler. "A State Police supervisor had asked Jarrott to pull over Cueva-Felix at the behest of federal agents" https://apnews.com/article/officer-killed-new-mexico-highway-shooting-4150b013a1f6786ce4a396999d98f8eb https://apnews.com/article/officer-killed-new-mexico-highway... In the case of David Maland, the chance of it being a completely normal "traffic stop" by a federal border patrol agent (who's job is not to fill the counties chest by writing tickets, as you incorrectly state), completely unrelated to these people being under surveillance at the time for being armed and in tactical gear, is dubious to put it mildly.