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Elon Musk's Doge Wants to Be Notified About Any Requests for Oversight

32 points by TheAlchemist 2y ago

drawkward 2y ago
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
zfg 2y ago
Transparency? Accountability? Why would anyone want any of that. Let's just keep things informal.
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  Hopefully informality can go both ways... Will no one rid us of these turbulent priests??
Terr_ 2y ago
"We need enough warning before auditors arrive that we can hide the incriminating evidence." > It specifically mentioned FOIA and was the first time I noticed this administration cite the public records law in any document. So they do know laws exist, they just pretend not to know about them.
yodsanklai 2y ago
Genuine question, is separation of powers a thing in the US? Either it's not, or Trump/Musk will be stopped and possibly punished, or these articles are exaggerations and don't reflect the truth.
- breakitmakeit 2y ago
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- Spivak 2y ago
  We do and it does work, but we're talking about a plan some 17ish years in the making to collect all the pieces of Exodia. It really is hard to explain to anyone who wasn't around just how much they hated Obama— the most powerful man in the world, a black man?! The Barack HUSSEIN Obama era and how the party changed their mission to one of burn it all down at all costs. The Tea Party which started this mess was a direct response to Obama. The GOP got two once in a lifetime draws with Trump to finish the set and now all three branches are all aligned.
  - inverted_flag 2y ago
    > It really is hard to explain to anyone who wasn't around just how much they hated Obama— the most powerful man in the world, a black man?! The Barack HUSSEIN Obama era and how the party changed their mission to one of burn it all down at all costs. This can’t be overstated. Trump rose to prominence because he was one of the loudest voices among the birther crowd.
  - smgit 2y ago
    You can also thank the arrival of social media for amplifying delusions - "You think I am wrong or stupid?? Then how did I get so many Likes/Views/Followers" With that population scale delusion amp working 24x7, we get the most over ambitious attention craving people rising up the food chain faster than they usually could. But speed is useless in ecosystem evolution. Anything moving faster than the rest of the system will run into issues faster too.
    - lightbendover 2y ago
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m463 2y ago
Isn't this taking a page out of uber's book of techniques? (they would know when a regulator asked for a ride and somehow an uber wouldn't be available)
silexia 2y ago
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- tzs 2y ago
  Just a couple days or so ago you commented that accountability is important. Now you are calling an article about how Musk is trying to avoid accountability far left and hysterical?
  - silexia 2y ago
    The far left wants to prevent Trump from doing what Americans elected him to do: clean up the corruption and waste in the federal government. Trump delegated this task to Elon Musk, who is barely getting started and is trying to gather data to see where the problems lie. The far left is using every trick in the book to try to prevent or slow this down, including the stuff in the article.
    - tzs 2y ago
      1. Trump got a plurality of the vote, not a majority. A majority voted for candidates other than Trump. 2. Auditing for corruption and waste does not require anywhere near the kind of unfettered access that Musk has been demanding for himself and the people he has brought in. 3. What "far left"? On most issues Democrats are about as far left as Republicans in 2008 were. For example if you take the 2008 Republican party platform and read the sections on energy, immigration, and foreign policy without knowing what it is you might easily mistake it for something from the Biden administration. Heck, I've seen people banned from Republican forums for suggesting approaches to issues that they copied straight from Ronald Reagan, because the moderators said it violates forum rules to advocate far left positions.

32 points by TheAlchemist 2y ago

drawkward 2y ago

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

zfg 2y ago

Transparency? Accountability? Why would anyone want any of that. Let's just keep things informal.

brokenmachine 2y ago
Hopefully informality can go both ways... Will no one rid us of these turbulent priests??

Terr_ 2y ago

"We need enough warning before auditors arrive that we can hide the incriminating evidence." > It specifically mentioned FOIA and was the first time I noticed this administration cite the public records law in any document. So they do know laws exist, they just pretend not to know about them.

yodsanklai 2y ago

Genuine question, is separation of powers a thing in the US? Either it's not, or Trump/Musk will be stopped and possibly punished, or these articles are exaggerations and don't reflect the truth.

breakitmakeit 2y ago
[dead]
Spivak 2y ago
We do and it does work, but we're talking about a plan some 17ish years in the making to collect all the pieces of Exodia. It really is hard to explain to anyone who wasn't around just how much they hated Obama— the most powerful man in the world, a black man?! The Barack HUSSEIN Obama era and how the party changed their mission to one of burn it all down at all costs. The Tea Party which started this mess was a direct response to Obama. The GOP got two once in a lifetime draws with Trump to finish the set and now all three branches are all aligned.
- inverted_flag 2y ago
  > It really is hard to explain to anyone who wasn't around just how much they hated Obama— the most powerful man in the world, a black man?! The Barack HUSSEIN Obama era and how the party changed their mission to one of burn it all down at all costs. This can’t be overstated. Trump rose to prominence because he was one of the loudest voices among the birther crowd.
- smgit 2y ago
  You can also thank the arrival of social media for amplifying delusions - "You think I am wrong or stupid?? Then how did I get so many Likes/Views/Followers" With that population scale delusion amp working 24x7, we get the most over ambitious attention craving people rising up the food chain faster than they usually could. But speed is useless in ecosystem evolution. Anything moving faster than the rest of the system will run into issues faster too.
  - lightbendover 2y ago
    [dead]

m463 2y ago

Isn't this taking a page out of uber's book of techniques? (they would know when a regulator asked for a ride and somehow an uber wouldn't be available)

silexia 2y ago

[flagged]

tzs 2y ago
Just a couple days or so ago you commented that accountability is important. Now you are calling an article about how Musk is trying to avoid accountability far left and hysterical?
- silexia 2y ago
  The far left wants to prevent Trump from doing what Americans elected him to do: clean up the corruption and waste in the federal government. Trump delegated this task to Elon Musk, who is barely getting started and is trying to gather data to see where the problems lie. The far left is using every trick in the book to try to prevent or slow this down, including the stuff in the article.
  - tzs 2y ago
    1. Trump got a plurality of the vote, not a majority. A majority voted for candidates other than Trump. 2. Auditing for corruption and waste does not require anywhere near the kind of unfettered access that Musk has been demanding for himself and the people he has brought in. 3. What "far left"? On most issues Democrats are about as far left as Republicans in 2008 were. For example if you take the 2008 Republican party platform and read the sections on energy, immigration, and foreign policy without knowing what it is you might easily mistake it for something from the Biden administration. Heck, I've seen people banned from Republican forums for suggesting approaches to issues that they copied straight from Ronald Reagan, because the moderators said it violates forum rules to advocate far left positions.