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exceptione 2y ago
The installment of kleptocracy was meticulously planned in advance, despite Trump making it look chaotic. He creates chaos, but behind the scenes the plan is implemented, by people that are loyal-to-death MAGA (the procedures selected out anyone with a modicum of honesty). The tech oligarchs vowed obedience to Trump. There has been an endless stream of sane-washing, false balance, getting the right nut jobs in the right places, buying twitter, buying the Supreme Court etc. With god speed they shook out science and institutions, to ensure critical people are gone. This might remind you something about history, and that might trigger the wrong response from you. Content on social networks is suppressed, eg pro-Ukraine voices has been silenced for a long time now on Twitter. Then suddenly problems with tags on other social networks. Content disappears. Bezos sinks on his knees to save his enterprises. It has been an enormous project, with many not knowing they worked for it. It is not insane to imagine that the most influential forum on tech incubation, the breeding ground, is actively being undermined to reach a political and moral understanding of issues that might result in a counter movement. There can be a group of some genuinely brainwashed people that take this as their identity, sure, but then still. All it tells is that the social system here is politically exploited. Don't tell me that side would absolutely not do that.
- brendoelfrendo 2y ago
  It's not that deep, bro. The tech bros were the fascists all along.
  - dttze 2y ago
    Most of the elite in the US are, and have been. This is the business plot v2.
eddyg 2y ago
For reference, the very first thing on the HN Guidelines⁽¹⁾ says: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics and: If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. but people keep submitting stories where politics is the primary focus anyways. Personally, I come to HN to read tech (and some tech-adjacent) news. There are plenty of other places to discuss things considered "off-topic" for HN. ⁽¹⁾ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- srid 2y ago
  > There are plenty of other places to discuss things considered "off-topic" for HN. Once such place is the "Culture War" threads in https://www.themotte.org/ https://www.themotte.org/ - but they do demand more level-headedness than what we typically see here on political submissions on HN (especially involving Trump or Musk).
- exceptione 2y ago
  A coup is happening in the US. With full consent and buy-in from big tech and then "Could you guys be silent please? I am reading about this interesting Python library" Don't take it personal, but your comment is a perfect illustration of how people have gotten here.
  - sershe 2y ago
    A non-insignificant part of the reason of why I am, and I bet many others too are ambivalent about the events is because of this stuff... Not just on hn or even online, but as a general pattern of behavior.. The right-thinking busybodies who want to make EVERYTHING about politics and the current thing. Believe me, we know where to find or to talk about politics. There's no shortage of places. Trying to ram it into a site made for, yes, reading about python libraries just makes me loathe you more. And it's entertaining to watch people I loathe shit bricks, even if I also loathe the other side.
    - exceptione 2y ago
      > And it's entertaining to watch people I loathe shit bricks Which means you do not have a modicum of understanding. Your appalling behavior is to turn it into a stupid culture war. I don't shit bricks my friend. The people that understand things better than you do are raising the alarm, precisely to get decadent and selfish asses like you to pay attention. For your own good. You are reminded that democracy is not a fringe issue to be compartmentalized, to be redirected to places for people interested in democracy. Yes, it is in your face as it means that there might be 2 or 3 topics out of 30 about the collapse of the largest democracy. "I am not political" is exactly what an average Russian answers about even the most simple questions. Democracy does not survive indifference. And if you don't like that democracy flows through all aspects of society, then enjoy the fake elections. You will never have to think about it. But still you can have a chuckle about those who did.
mcphage 2y ago
Read the sign: FIDDLE PLAYING ONLY

The installment of kleptocracy was meticulously planned in advance, despite Trump making it look chaotic. He creates chaos, but behind the scenes the plan is implemented, by people that are loyal-to-death MAGA (the procedures selected out anyone with a modicum of honesty). The tech oligarchs vowed obedience to Trump. There has been an endless stream of sane-washing, false balance, getting the right nut jobs in the right places, buying twitter, buying the Supreme Court etc. With god speed they shook out science and institutions, to ensure critical people are gone. This might remind you something about history, and that might trigger the wrong response from you. Content on social networks is suppressed, eg pro-Ukraine voices has been silenced for a long time now on Twitter. Then suddenly problems with tags on other social networks. Content disappears. Bezos sinks on his knees to save his enterprises. It has been an enormous project, with many not knowing they worked for it. It is not insane to imagine that the most influential forum on tech incubation, the breeding ground, is actively being undermined to reach a political and moral understanding of issues that might result in a counter movement. There can be a group of some genuinely brainwashed people that take this as their identity, sure, but then still. All it tells is that the social system here is politically exploited. Don't tell me that side would absolutely not do that.

brendoelfrendo 2y ago
It's not that deep, bro. The tech bros were the fascists all along.
- dttze 2y ago
  Most of the elite in the US are, and have been. This is the business plot v2.

eddyg 2y ago

For reference, the very first thing on the HN Guidelines⁽¹⁾ says: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics and: If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. but people keep submitting stories where politics is the primary focus anyways. Personally, I come to HN to read tech (and some tech-adjacent) news. There are plenty of other places to discuss things considered "off-topic" for HN. ⁽¹⁾ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

srid 2y ago
> There are plenty of other places to discuss things considered "off-topic" for HN. Once such place is the "Culture War" threads in https://www.themotte.org/ https://www.themotte.org/ - but they do demand more level-headedness than what we typically see here on political submissions on HN (especially involving Trump or Musk).
exceptione 2y ago
A coup is happening in the US. With full consent and buy-in from big tech and then "Could you guys be silent please? I am reading about this interesting Python library" Don't take it personal, but your comment is a perfect illustration of how people have gotten here.
- sershe 2y ago
  A non-insignificant part of the reason of why I am, and I bet many others too are ambivalent about the events is because of this stuff... Not just on hn or even online, but as a general pattern of behavior.. The right-thinking busybodies who want to make EVERYTHING about politics and the current thing. Believe me, we know where to find or to talk about politics. There's no shortage of places. Trying to ram it into a site made for, yes, reading about python libraries just makes me loathe you more. And it's entertaining to watch people I loathe shit bricks, even if I also loathe the other side.
  - exceptione 2y ago
    > And it's entertaining to watch people I loathe shit bricks Which means you do not have a modicum of understanding. Your appalling behavior is to turn it into a stupid culture war. I don't shit bricks my friend. The people that understand things better than you do are raising the alarm, precisely to get decadent and selfish asses like you to pay attention. For your own good. You are reminded that democracy is not a fringe issue to be compartmentalized, to be redirected to places for people interested in democracy. Yes, it is in your face as it means that there might be 2 or 3 topics out of 30 about the collapse of the largest democracy. "I am not political" is exactly what an average Russian answers about even the most simple questions. Democracy does not survive indifference. And if you don't like that democracy flows through all aspects of society, then enjoy the fake elections. You will never have to think about it. But still you can have a chuckle about those who did.

mcphage 2y ago

Read the sign: FIDDLE PLAYING ONLY