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This is an unpopular opinion, but I think they should fire more feds. The amount of love and support the FBI and IRS is receiving is insulting compared to the t

This is an unpopular opinion, but I think they should fire more feds. The amount of love and support the FBI and IRS is receiving is insulting compared to the tech layoffs that the same feds saw as justified. I know so many brilliant people in tech who were hung out to dry and then bullied even more because the media kept blaming them and condescendingly claimed they were overhired.

AlotOfReading 2y ago
If I get fired tomorrow, my family is sad and some corporate projects get delayed or canceled. When USAID gets defunded, tens of thousands of people don't get their HIV treatments. It's a very different kind of situation.
toomuchtodo 2y ago
Tech people being more important is an interesting perspective, considering the cost and lack of value provided, broadly speaking. Tech people believe they are important, but the economic evidence does not prove that out. I assume this will be more evident as the startup ecosystem continues to die in the current interest rate environment, tech salaries continue to decline, etc.
talldayo 2y ago
> I know so many brilliant people in tech who were hung out to dry Politicians didn't lay off those people, businesses did. If you think they need to be punished, then you boycott them or regulate their behavior. You're taking vengeance on the wrong people while letting the real perpetrator get away.
- Sparyjerry 2y ago
  The problem is feds literally cannot get fired, ever, no matter how poorly a job they do. I know a fed who punched his coworker in the face at work, got nothing but a suspension. There has to be a correction at point.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    I agree that reform is needed. That is not what the parent was advocating for, and my comment was a response to the nonsense logic behind their irate desire to see the American government suffer. You will be disappointed if you demand that federal employees reciprocate the consequences that Silicon Valley workers face. They have job security for much different reasons than a SpaceX or FAANG employee.
throwaway0123_5 2y ago
Tech workers got fired so FBI/IRS workers should also get fired? What is the logic here? As far as I'm aware the FBI/IRS have nothing whatsoever to do with the tech job market, let alone individual employees. As far as public sentiment wrt the firings go, it isn't super surprising that people are more upset about government employees getting fired. Big tech is becoming increasingly associated with things people don't like. Ads, toxic social media, gig economy, annoying CEOs (admittedly not the fault of the workers), AI in many cases, scams, pricing people out of cities they grew up in, etc. I think if you randomly selected a federal government employee and a tech worker, there's a much better chance the government employee is doing something more helpful for the average American.

AlotOfReading 2y ago

If I get fired tomorrow, my family is sad and some corporate projects get delayed or canceled. When USAID gets defunded, tens of thousands of people don't get their HIV treatments. It's a very different kind of situation.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

Tech people being more important is an interesting perspective, considering the cost and lack of value provided, broadly speaking. Tech people believe they are important, but the economic evidence does not prove that out. I assume this will be more evident as the startup ecosystem continues to die in the current interest rate environment, tech salaries continue to decline, etc.

talldayo 2y ago

> I know so many brilliant people in tech who were hung out to dry Politicians didn't lay off those people, businesses did. If you think they need to be punished, then you boycott them or regulate their behavior. You're taking vengeance on the wrong people while letting the real perpetrator get away.

Sparyjerry 2y ago
The problem is feds literally cannot get fired, ever, no matter how poorly a job they do. I know a fed who punched his coworker in the face at work, got nothing but a suspension. There has to be a correction at point.
- talldayo 2y ago
  I agree that reform is needed. That is not what the parent was advocating for, and my comment was a response to the nonsense logic behind their irate desire to see the American government suffer. You will be disappointed if you demand that federal employees reciprocate the consequences that Silicon Valley workers face. They have job security for much different reasons than a SpaceX or FAANG employee.

throwaway0123_5 2y ago

Tech workers got fired so FBI/IRS workers should also get fired? What is the logic here? As far as I'm aware the FBI/IRS have nothing whatsoever to do with the tech job market, let alone individual employees. As far as public sentiment wrt the firings go, it isn't super surprising that people are more upset about government employees getting fired. Big tech is becoming increasingly associated with things people don't like. Ads, toxic social media, gig economy, annoying CEOs (admittedly not the fault of the workers), AI in many cases, scams, pricing people out of cities they grew up in, etc. I think if you randomly selected a federal government employee and a tech worker, there's a much better chance the government employee is doing something more helpful for the average American.