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Video from a passanger, the hull is upside down! https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=617972644350232 https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=617972644350232

philip1209 2y ago
And the wing is missing
- rkagerer 2y ago
  I think the tail assembly also sheared off. Here's what the CRJ900 looks like intact: https://d3lcr32v2pp4l1.cloudfront.net/Pictures/780xany/0/8/3/108083_crj900cdeltaairlines_818853.jpg https://d3lcr32v2pp4l1.cloudfront.net/Pictures/780xany/0/8/3... Tail and/or wing debris can be seen on the left side of this photo (forward of the aircraft nose): https://i.cbc.ca/1.7461358.1739833036!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/4x3_1180/ont-pearson-plane-crash-20250217.jpg https://i.cbc.ca/1.7461358.1739833036!/cpImage/httpImage/ima...
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mikeyouse 2y ago
I know they need to control any possibility of a fire but man would it be a rude awakening to escape a significant plane crash, release your seatbelt while hanging upside down, make it to the exit door and then get sprayed in the face with cold water on a February day in Toronto.
- georgemcbay 2y ago
  After feeling like you might have legitimately barely escaped death everything you can feel feels pretty good until the adrenaline high wears off.
- mlacks 2y ago
  ill take that over consumption by fire
- BobAliceInATree 2y ago
  Better cold water and not PFAS/firefighting foam edit: apparently Canada banned PFAS in firefighting foam.
  - culi 2y ago
    The US Forest Service also banned firefighting foam in parks or anywhere where endangered species are found. Now that they're defunded I bet we're gonna get a lot more of that stuff everywhere
    - Spooky23 2y ago
      Don’t forget OSHA. Those chemicals and nomex turnout gear are a source of elevated cancers in firefighters.
      - userbinator 2y ago
        ...and not the large amounts of smoke they're exposed to?
        Spooky23 2y ago
        Different. The nomex tends to wick contaminants to the skin, especially around the neck. Any exposure to the foam is a risk. There’s a lot of people on fire service in my family. The old guys have bad knees, are dead, and have smoking related issues. The younger (<50) guys are getting neck, throat and lymph node cancers. 70% of line of duty deaths are due to occupational cancer.
    - account42 2y ago
      What is it about TDS that causes those affected to insert this topic into every unrelated discussion?
- kylehotchkiss 2y ago
  They were flying from Minneapolis though. Maybe that’s just normal February weather for them?
  - colechristensen 2y ago
    Toronto is a good 20 degrees warmer than Minneapolis right now but we tend not to turn the sprinklers on in February for a little outside fun. Also plenty of delta flights will layover at MSP.
    - dlcarrier 2y ago
      I recently flew between California and Mexico, with a layover in Denver. I hadn't paid any attention to the whether in Denver, until we were landing on a runway surrounded by snow and it dawned on my that I didn't even have a sweater. If we had to evacuate I'd have been in trouble, but even having a canceled flight could mean spending the night in a hotel there, without warm clothing that I could wear outside.
- moralestapia 2y ago
  If I just survived a plane crash that would be the last thing on my mind.
  - markus_zhang 2y ago
    Yeah I'd be fucking shocked but then crazily happy...
- aaronmdjones 2y ago
  One of the two ejected rear passengers in Asiana 214 (neither of which were wearing their seat belt) was unlucky enough to have initially survived, only to be doused in firefighting foam and then run over. When it's your time to go ...
sva_ 2y ago
And another one https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iruc70/video_from_passenger_aboard_the_delta_airlines/ https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iruc70/vid... --- On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane.
- userbinator 2y ago
  On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane. It's literally once in a lifetime, and it didn't look like anyone was in serious danger after they realised they'd survived.
  - genter 2y ago
    It's not unusual for people in a plane crash to survive, then die from smoke inhalation because the people in front of them took too long to evacuate the plane.
    - hermannj314 2y ago
      Per the referenced link, of the 35 serious incidents between 1983 and 2017, there were 3,823 aircraft occupants. In that group, if you either survived or died from smoke/fire, there is a 7.2% chance you died from smoke/fire. I can't fine tune that number to determine you survived the crash, but then died from smoke or fire, since it did not easily differentiate pre-crash and post-crash fires. I am not sure I would agree or disagree that it is usual to die from smoke inhalation after surviving a plane crash given the reason that people took too long to evacuate. It just feels like the upper limit of how many people die that way can't be that large since many of those smoke/fire deaths would not be attributable to that cause. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/data/Pages/Part121AccidentSurvivability.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/data/Pages/Part121AccidentSurviv...
      - yyhhsj0521 2y ago
        If they had time to look up these statistics, they surely had time to take a selfie, making the point moot.
zubiaur 2y ago
There is a longer version that shows the inside of the plane. The flight attendant decisively and composedly ushering the passengers off the (upside down) plane. Hats off. https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1891632984500904441/video/1 https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1891632984500904441/video/1
- abenga 2y ago
  I have a lot of antipathy towards the passengers who are getting out with their backpacks; if one takes the time to pick up their stuff they are probably in the way, take more time getting out, and could cause the death of other passengers or staff.
  - eastbound 2y ago
    Don’t they actually get a heavy sanction? If not, maybe they should. I can imagine people with a suitcase getting prison time.
    - matsemann 2y ago
      I think you should acknowledge that you and the person above are reading this sitting in a comfortable chair (or on the toilet), with little stress, good time to think, and the magic power of hindsight. People just having been in a crash, however, are in a different situation. They've just been thrown upside down, having to release their seat buckles and fall down onto the roof, then being ushered out in panic. Them not behaving perfectly rational should be excused.
      - dionidium 2y ago
        The way we increase the chances that everybody reading this will behave appropriately if they're ever in this situation is by strongly condemning those who did not.
        goostavos 2y ago

philip1209 2y ago

And the wing is missing

rkagerer 2y ago
I think the tail assembly also sheared off. Here's what the CRJ900 looks like intact: https://d3lcr32v2pp4l1.cloudfront.net/Pictures/780xany/0/8/3/108083_crj900cdeltaairlines_818853.jpg https://d3lcr32v2pp4l1.cloudfront.net/Pictures/780xany/0/8/3... Tail and/or wing debris can be seen on the left side of this photo (forward of the aircraft nose): https://i.cbc.ca/1.7461358.1739833036!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/4x3_1180/ont-pearson-plane-crash-20250217.jpg https://i.cbc.ca/1.7461358.1739833036!/cpImage/httpImage/ima...

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mikeyouse 2y ago

I know they need to control any possibility of a fire but man would it be a rude awakening to escape a significant plane crash, release your seatbelt while hanging upside down, make it to the exit door and then get sprayed in the face with cold water on a February day in Toronto.

georgemcbay 2y ago
After feeling like you might have legitimately barely escaped death everything you can feel feels pretty good until the adrenaline high wears off.
mlacks 2y ago
ill take that over consumption by fire
BobAliceInATree 2y ago
Better cold water and not PFAS/firefighting foam edit: apparently Canada banned PFAS in firefighting foam.
- culi 2y ago
  The US Forest Service also banned firefighting foam in parks or anywhere where endangered species are found. Now that they're defunded I bet we're gonna get a lot more of that stuff everywhere
  - Spooky23 2y ago
    Don’t forget OSHA. Those chemicals and nomex turnout gear are a source of elevated cancers in firefighters.
    - userbinator 2y ago
      ...and not the large amounts of smoke they're exposed to?
      - Spooky23 2y ago
        Different. The nomex tends to wick contaminants to the skin, especially around the neck. Any exposure to the foam is a risk. There’s a lot of people on fire service in my family. The old guys have bad knees, are dead, and have smoking related issues. The younger (<50) guys are getting neck, throat and lymph node cancers. 70% of line of duty deaths are due to occupational cancer.
  - account42 2y ago
    What is it about TDS that causes those affected to insert this topic into every unrelated discussion?
kylehotchkiss 2y ago
They were flying from Minneapolis though. Maybe that’s just normal February weather for them?
- colechristensen 2y ago
  Toronto is a good 20 degrees warmer than Minneapolis right now but we tend not to turn the sprinklers on in February for a little outside fun. Also plenty of delta flights will layover at MSP.
  - dlcarrier 2y ago
    I recently flew between California and Mexico, with a layover in Denver. I hadn't paid any attention to the whether in Denver, until we were landing on a runway surrounded by snow and it dawned on my that I didn't even have a sweater. If we had to evacuate I'd have been in trouble, but even having a canceled flight could mean spending the night in a hotel there, without warm clothing that I could wear outside.
moralestapia 2y ago
If I just survived a plane crash that would be the last thing on my mind.
- markus_zhang 2y ago
  Yeah I'd be fucking shocked but then crazily happy...
aaronmdjones 2y ago
One of the two ejected rear passengers in Asiana 214 (neither of which were wearing their seat belt) was unlucky enough to have initially survived, only to be doused in firefighting foam and then run over. When it's your time to go ...

sva_ 2y ago

And another one https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iruc70/video_from_passenger_aboard_the_delta_airlines/ https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iruc70/vid... --- On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane.

userbinator 2y ago
On a side note, it is crazy someone would take a selfie video before exiting a crashed airplane. It's literally once in a lifetime, and it didn't look like anyone was in serious danger after they realised they'd survived.
- genter 2y ago
  It's not unusual for people in a plane crash to survive, then die from smoke inhalation because the people in front of them took too long to evacuate the plane.
  - hermannj314 2y ago
    Per the referenced link, of the 35 serious incidents between 1983 and 2017, there were 3,823 aircraft occupants. In that group, if you either survived or died from smoke/fire, there is a 7.2% chance you died from smoke/fire. I can't fine tune that number to determine you survived the crash, but then died from smoke or fire, since it did not easily differentiate pre-crash and post-crash fires. I am not sure I would agree or disagree that it is usual to die from smoke inhalation after surviving a plane crash given the reason that people took too long to evacuate. It just feels like the upper limit of how many people die that way can't be that large since many of those smoke/fire deaths would not be attributable to that cause. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/data/Pages/Part121AccidentSurvivability.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/data/Pages/Part121AccidentSurviv...
    - yyhhsj0521 2y ago
      If they had time to look up these statistics, they surely had time to take a selfie, making the point moot.

zubiaur 2y ago

There is a longer version that shows the inside of the plane. The flight attendant decisively and composedly ushering the passengers off the (upside down) plane. Hats off. https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1891632984500904441/video/1 https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1891632984500904441/video/1

abenga 2y ago
I have a lot of antipathy towards the passengers who are getting out with their backpacks; if one takes the time to pick up their stuff they are probably in the way, take more time getting out, and could cause the death of other passengers or staff.
- eastbound 2y ago
  Don’t they actually get a heavy sanction? If not, maybe they should. I can imagine people with a suitcase getting prison time.
  - matsemann 2y ago
    I think you should acknowledge that you and the person above are reading this sitting in a comfortable chair (or on the toilet), with little stress, good time to think, and the magic power of hindsight. People just having been in a crash, however, are in a different situation. They've just been thrown upside down, having to release their seat buckles and fall down onto the roof, then being ushered out in panic. Them not behaving perfectly rational should be excused.
    - dionidium 2y ago
      The way we increase the chances that everybody reading this will behave appropriately if they're ever in this situation is by strongly condemning those who did not.
      - goostavos 2y ago