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The grandparent claimed: > I think that is mostly because the perpetrators are often in a different country than victims. So, your comment here is moving the

The grandparent claimed: > I think that is mostly because the perpetrators are often in a different country than victims. So, your comment here is moving the goalpost: > What makes you so sure that IP blocking countries will have any effect, when anyone can buy a no-log VPN for $5/month? If it's malicious activity behind VPNs in foreign countries, then see previous comment about blocking foreign countries. Block foreign countries at the interconnect until they enact and enforce laws which address the malicious activity. If it's malicious activity behind VPNs in your own country then you need only convince your law enforcement to enforce existing computer crime laws. Renting a server for $5/mo requires payment and payment provides a name & address to prosecute. All you need is to demonstrate that the malicious activity originated from the rented IP address and during the rental period.

gruez 2y ago
>So, your comment here is moving the goalpost: There's no point in implementing measures that would be trivially bypassed but cause great economic and societal harm in the process (ie. creating some sort of KYC regime for the internet, or causing millions to be cut off from the internet). China, arguably one of the most draconian states out there, and the home of pig butchering scams can barely keep a lid on it. Countries like the US that emphasize civil liberties and free trade don't stand a chance. >If it's malicious activity behind VPNs in your own country then you need only convince your law enforcement to enforce existing computer crime laws. Renting a server for $5/mo requires payment and payment provides a name & address to prosecute. You can pay for no-log VPNs using crypto or anonymous gift cards. Apple, Google, and others even have 2-hop VPNs that theoretically make it impossible for the provider to log connections even if they wanted to. Not to mention, there are many countries, including the US where you can get prepaid SIMs without presenting any sort of ID and pay with cash. Even if you were some how able to enforce an airtight KYC regime for the internet (doubtful, given how well that works for the financial system), you still have to contend with compromised routers/IOT devices and shady apps that act as proxies for bad guys.
- inetknght 2y ago
  So we're back to "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" then?
  - gruez 2y ago
    As I mentioned in my previous comment, China has tried "something" and came up empty handed. It makes little sense to follow in their footsteps just so some snarky internet commenters can't invoke "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas".

gruez 2y ago

>So, your comment here is moving the goalpost: There's no point in implementing measures that would be trivially bypassed but cause great economic and societal harm in the process (ie. creating some sort of KYC regime for the internet, or causing millions to be cut off from the internet). China, arguably one of the most draconian states out there, and the home of pig butchering scams can barely keep a lid on it. Countries like the US that emphasize civil liberties and free trade don't stand a chance. >If it's malicious activity behind VPNs in your own country then you need only convince your law enforcement to enforce existing computer crime laws. Renting a server for $5/mo requires payment and payment provides a name & address to prosecute. You can pay for no-log VPNs using crypto or anonymous gift cards. Apple, Google, and others even have 2-hop VPNs that theoretically make it impossible for the provider to log connections even if they wanted to. Not to mention, there are many countries, including the US where you can get prepaid SIMs without presenting any sort of ID and pay with cash. Even if you were some how able to enforce an airtight KYC regime for the internet (doubtful, given how well that works for the financial system), you still have to contend with compromised routers/IOT devices and shady apps that act as proxies for bad guys.

inetknght 2y ago
So we're back to "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" then?
- gruez 2y ago
  As I mentioned in my previous comment, China has tried "something" and came up empty handed. It makes little sense to follow in their footsteps just so some snarky internet commenters can't invoke "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas".