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That's ridiculous. reCAPTCHA isn't making you do more work, it's just making work you have to do anyway useful. The benefit Google gets from the OCR work is mic

That's ridiculous. reCAPTCHA isn't making you do more work, it's just making work you have to do anyway useful. The benefit Google gets from the OCR work is microscopic, and the world gets old books and New York Times articles.

slowpoke 14y ago
See, I would have much less of a problem with this if Google actually told this to everyone. Instead, they silently use you for free labor. That's dishonest. I'm all in for crowdsourcing if you tell me about it and nicely ask me to participate. Not when I am forced to do it.
- quarterto 14y ago
  It says right there on the reCAPTCHA widget "Stop spam, read books". How is that dishonest?
- icebraining 14y ago
  From the landing page of reCaptcha: "reCAPTCHA IS A FREE ANTI-BOT SERVICE THAT HELPS DIGITIZE BOOKS". The "What is reCAPTCHA" explains the OCR process clearly and has the phrase "Currently, we are helping to digitize old editions of the New York Times and books from Google Books." And if you click on the "HELP" link in a reCAPTCHA, it opens a small page with the instructions and a paragraph explain the OCR and a link to Learn More. How are they _not_ telling this to everyone?
  - slowpoke 14y ago
    I'm actually wrong on this one, I see. Might be because I don't even really look at the widget itself anymore, I just type it.
  - tomjen3 14y ago
    Ask twenty regular users who have been forced to fill that crap out. Nobody reads the about page. Put it on the front page (or the embedded widget, if that is what the user sees) in clear large letters that are easy to see or accept that we consider you scum.
    - icebraining 14y ago
      (They do put it on the front page, I already pointed that out) So, assuming you don't consider HN scum (you're here, after all), can you please explain to me how is this different from YCombinator using HN to publicize their own companies? There's nothing in the front or signup pages explaining that. Frankly, I don't see why is that a problem. They're offering a free service in exchange for having words manually OCRed. If you have a problem with it I think you should take it to the site that's using reCaptcha, not with Google. (By the way, I'm not affiliated with Google and I'm not even an heavy user of their services anymore)

slowpoke 14y ago

See, I would have much less of a problem with this if Google actually told this to everyone. Instead, they silently use you for free labor. That's dishonest. I'm all in for crowdsourcing if you tell me about it and nicely ask me to participate. Not when I am forced to do it.

quarterto 14y ago
It says right there on the reCAPTCHA widget "Stop spam, read books". How is that dishonest?
icebraining 14y ago
From the landing page of reCaptcha: "reCAPTCHA IS A FREE ANTI-BOT SERVICE THAT HELPS DIGITIZE BOOKS". The "What is reCAPTCHA" explains the OCR process clearly and has the phrase "Currently, we are helping to digitize old editions of the New York Times and books from Google Books." And if you click on the "HELP" link in a reCAPTCHA, it opens a small page with the instructions and a paragraph explain the OCR and a link to Learn More. How are they _not_ telling this to everyone?
- slowpoke 14y ago
  I'm actually wrong on this one, I see. Might be because I don't even really look at the widget itself anymore, I just type it.
- tomjen3 14y ago
  Ask twenty regular users who have been forced to fill that crap out. Nobody reads the about page. Put it on the front page (or the embedded widget, if that is what the user sees) in clear large letters that are easy to see or accept that we consider you scum.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    (They do put it on the front page, I already pointed that out) So, assuming you don't consider HN scum (you're here, after all), can you please explain to me how is this different from YCombinator using HN to publicize their own companies? There's nothing in the front or signup pages explaining that. Frankly, I don't see why is that a problem. They're offering a free service in exchange for having words manually OCRed. If you have a problem with it I think you should take it to the site that's using reCaptcha, not with Google. (By the way, I'm not affiliated with Google and I'm not even an heavy user of their services anymore)