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But people aren’t saying that. Instead, they’re just inventing reasons why Musk is wrong, with no evidence or invented evidence, like the subject of this articl

But people aren’t saying that. Instead, they’re just inventing reasons why Musk is wrong, with no evidence or invented evidence, like the subject of this article.

troupo 2y ago
Because Musk has already given ample evidence of how wrong he is on multiple accounts. It's on Musk to provide evidence for his extraordinary claims. So far that evidence has been in very short supply.
- Amezarak 2y ago
  Yes, but people are just making stuff up about why he’s wrong. That is literally no better. You may as well just suspend judgement about these claims. No amount of evidence is going to convince most people here: we saw that with the Hunter laptop, where the goalposts moved with each additional proof the smallest amount possible.
  - troupo 2y ago
    "No amount of evidence" does not equal "no evidence". In case of Hunter laptop there was a grand jury, an FBI investigation, a criminal case, a joint investigation by two Republican committees against Joe Biden etc. etc. What evidence has Musk provided?
  - buttercraft 2y ago
    Are these made up? https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-mus...
    - Amezarak 2y ago
      This is not a good article. The Reuters and Politico examples, for instance, are particularly tendentious. Overpaying for subscriptions, or buying unnecessary subscriptions is exactly how such payments would operate.
- thordenmark 2y ago
  Tons of evidence released already, even if you've only been casually following DOGE. And for some, no amount of evidence will ever be enough. Why is it so hard to believe an agency as big and inefficient as the US Govt. would have plenty of waste?
  - lostdog 2y ago
    I love comments about there being "tons" of evidence without pointing to a single piece of it. Few things make me chuckle as hard as this.
  - cjkarr 2y ago
    I've been waiting for that evidence. All I see is a message stating "Receipts coming over the weekend!" https://doge.gov/savings https://doge.gov/savings
  - troupo 2y ago
    Nope, there's no evidence. There's an endless list of something cut, with no evidence that it was wasteful, fraud, or not within the remit of the agencies in question. Like this one: https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890593889314038216 https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890593889314038216 Or claims with literally no evidence other than the tweets like this: https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890849405932077378 https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890849405932077378

But people aren’t saying that. Instead, they’re just inventing reasons why Musk is wrong, with no evidence or invented evidence, like the subject of this article.

troupo 2y ago

Because Musk has already given ample evidence of how wrong he is on multiple accounts. It's on Musk to provide evidence for his extraordinary claims. So far that evidence has been in very short supply.

Amezarak 2y ago
Yes, but people are just making stuff up about why he’s wrong. That is literally no better. You may as well just suspend judgement about these claims. No amount of evidence is going to convince most people here: we saw that with the Hunter laptop, where the goalposts moved with each additional proof the smallest amount possible.
- troupo 2y ago
  "No amount of evidence" does not equal "no evidence". In case of Hunter laptop there was a grand jury, an FBI investigation, a criminal case, a joint investigation by two Republican committees against Joe Biden etc. etc. What evidence has Musk provided?
- buttercraft 2y ago
  Are these made up? https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-mus...
  - Amezarak 2y ago
    This is not a good article. The Reuters and Politico examples, for instance, are particularly tendentious. Overpaying for subscriptions, or buying unnecessary subscriptions is exactly how such payments would operate.
thordenmark 2y ago
Tons of evidence released already, even if you've only been casually following DOGE. And for some, no amount of evidence will ever be enough. Why is it so hard to believe an agency as big and inefficient as the US Govt. would have plenty of waste?
- lostdog 2y ago
  I love comments about there being "tons" of evidence without pointing to a single piece of it. Few things make me chuckle as hard as this.
- cjkarr 2y ago
  I've been waiting for that evidence. All I see is a message stating "Receipts coming over the weekend!" https://doge.gov/savings https://doge.gov/savings
- troupo 2y ago
  Nope, there's no evidence. There's an endless list of something cut, with no evidence that it was wasteful, fraud, or not within the remit of the agencies in question. Like this one: https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890593889314038216 https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890593889314038216 Or claims with literally no evidence other than the tweets like this: https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890849405932077378 https://x.com/DOGE/status/1890849405932077378