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People have only that much power we give to them. If everyone stops using Twitter/X, it is nothing. Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing. The list goes on since h
by nicce 2y ago
People have only that much power we give to them. If everyone stops using Twitter/X, it is nothing. Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing. The list goes on since his # in wealthy ranks defines his position. Just make it drop.
- firen777 2y agoXitter is the least of the issues considering his tie to China and Russia and the all-you-can-eat buffet happening right now in the US government.
- nicce 2y agoAll the ties and US government position is based on his money and influence in platforms.
- andrepd 2y agoFlood the zone. Propose ethinc cleansing and sell Ukraine to Russia and manipulate the German elections and censor twitter and cut usaid and pass inane stuff about transgenders. All in the space of a week. How can you even process what's happening, let alone resist it?
- phtrivier 2y agoYou pick a line where you have some degree of control, and you stay focussed on it. Coordination should not be about "hey, let's all make a lot of noise about his last move", because you're overwhelmed. It's about making sure not too many people are working on the same line. You pick a line. One where you can act. You get one executive order rescinded. Someone else work on another one. You legislate one doggy doger at a time. You focus like crazy. (First action to focus is, of course, to delete your Twitter account.) You make noise about all the times where you win, and they loose. In two years, you get the voters out. If you don't have any other control then "not playing their game, and wait", that's at least something. There's probably a food bank close to your place. Keep the lights on there.
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- addandsubtract 2y agoThere really should be a bigger campaign for everyone to sell their Tesla shares. As you said, take away his money and he goes away.
- XorNot 2y agoI mean people should do that anyway, because when that stock takes a tumble it's going to shed value incredibly fast. It's been overvalued before, and now it's cruising on "how good will the government corruption money be". Needless to say, you can look at how things worked out in Russia for who gets paid, and how much that winds up being worth in the end.
- kstrauser 2y agoSell them to whom? If I had a Tesla and sold it to you, there are still the same number of people driving one. I’m sympathetic to Tesla owners who've had their car for a while. If Akio Toyoda turned out to be a bastard, I wouldn't buy another new Toyota, but I’d continue to drive our current one until the wheels fall off. Same with Teslas. It's unreasonable to ask someone to get rid of their working, paid-for family transport. We can't just scrap all of them. But. Anyone driving an Incel Camino just bought the thing, and I will continue pointing at them and laughing.
- nicce 2y agoOnly the initial purchase matters for buying the cars from the point of Musk and Tesla's value. I think the revenue for repairing the cars during their lifetime does not bring that much money back to the Tesla. So ideally, we want to reduce the purchases of new Teslas and bring the stock down.
- eesmith 2y agoaddandsubtract wrote "sell their Tesla shares", not "sell their Teslas". Even nicce's parent comment only concerned buying new Teslas.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing The pussyfooting around this from some countries is genuinely surprising. Like, how are the Germans of all people confused about whether the oligarch courting their neo Nazis is a threat to their national security?
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- nicce 2y agoOther parties in many countries don’t seem to understand that if they try to solve the immigration issues more seriously - many right-wing parties would disappear as they have nothing else.
- _fw 2y agoIt’s not about immigration. If it was, then mainstream parties WOULD fix immigration. It’s about national identity, “us and them”. If it wasn’t about immigrants it would be about “experts”. If it wasn’t about experts it would be about “the gays”. This kind of thing doesn’t go away with appeasement: orgs like AfD just point their weapons at somebody else. It has always been the way with facists.
- milesrout 2y agoIt is about immigration. The mainstream parties can't fix migration because Germany's political system makes it almost impossible to form majority governments. Coalition politics and the cordon sanitaire force the CDU to work with the left and seemingly the left's only consistent political position is opposition to migration reform. The AfD aren't fascists and the attempts to win elections by just screaming slurs until they lose all meaning has stopped working. People have realised that calling everything "racist" or "fascist" or "Nazi" or whatever doesn't mean it actually is, and the left's entire political strategy is just labelling things it doesn't like with bad words. And yes part of the issue with immigration is national identity. Germany is a nation-state and always has been, just like France and Poland and Italy and Spain and Portugal and Czechia and Hungary and Ireland and Greece are. There are still some non-national states in Europe like the UK (which contains multiple nations: England, Scotland and Wales, arguably part of Ireland (although some claim Northern Ireland has been separate long enough to have its own national identity) and arguably Cornwall if you listen to Cornish nationalists which you probably shouldn't). Economic migrants, falsely claiming to be refugees, from Somalia and Syria, aren't German. Or French. Or Italian. Or Greek. They are Somalian, or Syrian. To pretend migration policy debates don't raise issues of national identity is fucking insane.
- palata 2y agoThe scary part is that most US citizens seem to support Mump. I think Trump has never been that high in popularity, right?