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This comment definitely needs to be bumped up. It adds extra data to the mystery. Here's the raw data: Age Range,Count 0-9,38825456 10-19,44326480 20-

This comment definitely needs to be bumped up. It adds extra data to the mystery. Here's the raw data: Age Range,Count 0-9,38825456 10-19,44326480 20-29,47995478 30-39,52106915 40-49,47626581 50-59,45740805 60-69,46381281 70-79,33404412 80-89,15165127 90-99,6054154 100-109,4734407 110-119,3627007 120-129,3472849 130-139,3936311 140-149,3542044 150-159,1345083 160-169,121807 170-179,6087 180-189,695 190-199,448 200-209,879 210-219,866 220-229,1039 240-249,1 360-369,1 Bar plot of data: https://imgur.com/a/34Y5BSv https://imgur.com/a/34Y5BSv

bloomingkales 2y ago
If you assume all the non-deceased (as marked in the DB) are still getting a SS check, then simply tallying up 65+ amounts to a 8 trillion dollar social security payout annually. We are definitely not paying that. My guess is the deceased flag is different from the “eligible for payout” flag, or that flag is determined on another join. They spoke too quickly, which is a common human error. Someone else smarter run some experiments.
- ipv6ipv4 2y ago
  This is the smoking gun that Musk has no understanding of what he's looking at. A competent engineer would look at these numbers, recognize that they don't match payments, and shut up until they figure out the bigger picture that can explain everything they see. Instead, he raced to tweet it. This is just dumb.
  - qingcharles 2y ago
    Agree. Some professional auditors on Reddit were saying how often they go into a business and find a bunch of stuff that immediately looks like fraud, then they go interview knowledgeable employees and find a ton of weird accounting edge cases which explains all the out-of-bounds stuff. But.. it sounds much better to the population if you scream that you found $8Tn a year in fraud.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - TrackerFF 2y ago
    Oh, do not for one second think that this behavior isn't intentional. Elon knows it is BS. But that's not the point, the point is to create outrage, and legitimize it all to the MAGA crowd. It is all intentional misleading.
    - hsuduebc2 2y ago
      I love how these people are absolutely prone to even basic "common sense". You need to blame someone for your misery. One of the oldest tricks. We are still just unga bunga tribal apes some of us smarter that the other but it's still not enough.
      - bloomingkales 2y ago
        You need to look at how the republicans on X are discussing this: https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1886647920566636637 https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1886647920566636637 They are basically inundating that base with tech content that only lifelong developers would be able to parse. It’s a serious propaganda effort. I’m sad right now dude.
        hsuduebc2 2y ago
        What is the point of this? To hide information for audience which in majority does not understand what these data and graphs means but they are going to assume it's meaning is what they wish to see there? So they can basically prove their points with data hidden by literal obfuscation lol. I'm not so much sad as amazed slash disgusted. This is antivax thinking pattern.
- tayo42 2y ago
  Quick Google search says 1.6 trillion will be paid this year.

bloomingkales 2y ago

If you assume all the non-deceased (as marked in the DB) are still getting a SS check, then simply tallying up 65+ amounts to a 8 trillion dollar social security payout annually. We are definitely not paying that. My guess is the deceased flag is different from the “eligible for payout” flag, or that flag is determined on another join. They spoke too quickly, which is a common human error. Someone else smarter run some experiments.

ipv6ipv4 2y ago
This is the smoking gun that Musk has no understanding of what he's looking at. A competent engineer would look at these numbers, recognize that they don't match payments, and shut up until they figure out the bigger picture that can explain everything they see. Instead, he raced to tweet it. This is just dumb.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  Agree. Some professional auditors on Reddit were saying how often they go into a business and find a bunch of stuff that immediately looks like fraud, then they go interview knowledgeable employees and find a ton of weird accounting edge cases which explains all the out-of-bounds stuff. But.. it sounds much better to the population if you scream that you found $8Tn a year in fraud.
- deleted 2y ago
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- TrackerFF 2y ago
  Oh, do not for one second think that this behavior isn't intentional. Elon knows it is BS. But that's not the point, the point is to create outrage, and legitimize it all to the MAGA crowd. It is all intentional misleading.
  - hsuduebc2 2y ago
    I love how these people are absolutely prone to even basic "common sense". You need to blame someone for your misery. One of the oldest tricks. We are still just unga bunga tribal apes some of us smarter that the other but it's still not enough.
    - bloomingkales 2y ago
      You need to look at how the republicans on X are discussing this: https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1886647920566636637 https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1886647920566636637 They are basically inundating that base with tech content that only lifelong developers would be able to parse. It’s a serious propaganda effort. I’m sad right now dude.
      - hsuduebc2 2y ago
        What is the point of this? To hide information for audience which in majority does not understand what these data and graphs means but they are going to assume it's meaning is what they wish to see there? So they can basically prove their points with data hidden by literal obfuscation lol. I'm not so much sad as amazed slash disgusted. This is antivax thinking pattern.
tayo42 2y ago
Quick Google search says 1.6 trillion will be paid this year.