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Again, I said a specific sentence, and I think it's the most important sentence to me. You have to be lucky to be witness to poverty, it provides incredible per

Again, I said a specific sentence, and I think it's the most important sentence to me. You have to be lucky to be witness to poverty, it provides incredible perspective. I undermine other's concerns about the unsightly view because I believe their attitude is immoral, and I have no issue drawing a red line there.

ty6853 2y ago
Having been homeless a couple times the way out is rather simple in most cases if you're sane and sober. A days day labor is enough for food, propane, and bus passes for a week. Anything beyond that us enough to buy a shower at a truck stop and get cleaned up for an interview at a warehouse. You can trivially survive outside with a weeks day labor wages worth of REI gear on the coasts and most the lower 49 ( of course a junky would hawk this as soon as they are dope sick ) On both occasions I used this equation homeless -> day labor for Airbnb to clean up for warehouse/factory interview -> work in factory until deposit on apartment earned to get out. Most the people actually on the street are nuts or drugged out. People like me would clean construction site, then take a bus to edge of town and climb a flat roof and sleep where no one sees us. What you're witnessing isn't so much poverty but insanity.
- bloomingkales 2y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    You're both talking past each other in a high-handed way that speaks perfectly to why this is a problem that's not only unsolved, but toxic to try and solve.
    - ty6853 2y ago
      I'm not even sure it's a problem so much as a symptom. If you see someone with shortness of breath, normally offering some oxygen might help them. Unless of course they have COPD, in which case that may very well kill them.
    - bloomingkales 2y ago
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- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  I can't even find work with experience and a clean record. I can't imagine how bad it'd be to find minimum wage work while not having an address to full a form out with. If it's been a whine for you it's gotten so much worse. >Most the people actually on the street are nuts or drugged out The most obvious, in your face example are the crazy ones. For basic human survival we remember those the most. But I bet most homeless people are just a person on the streets getting by. Not even the ones begging for change. It's a lot harder to get by in CA though.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    If nothing else works I've also fallen back on commercial fishing in the Bering Sea near AK (free food and board included), and hitch hiking to north Dakota to work on the oil rush. I don't know if they still hire but usually they'll hire anyone and maybe give you free board. The address you out down generally isn't checked, I'll leave it at that. Putting professional work experience is a no no for minimum wage job. Word your experience to make it sound much more laborious and uneducated.
throwaway7783 2y ago
Yes, you can draw a line wherever your moral compass tells you to. My point was not about morality. It is just that regardless of what you think of morals as an individual, these people are all still part of the same society, and parts of both problems and solutions. And in many parts of the world you have to be lucky not to see/experience poverty from up close.
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ty6853 2y ago

Having been homeless a couple times the way out is rather simple in most cases if you're sane and sober. A days day labor is enough for food, propane, and bus passes for a week. Anything beyond that us enough to buy a shower at a truck stop and get cleaned up for an interview at a warehouse. You can trivially survive outside with a weeks day labor wages worth of REI gear on the coasts and most the lower 49 ( of course a junky would hawk this as soon as they are dope sick ) On both occasions I used this equation homeless -> day labor for Airbnb to clean up for warehouse/factory interview -> work in factory until deposit on apartment earned to get out. Most the people actually on the street are nuts or drugged out. People like me would clean construction site, then take a bus to edge of town and climb a flat roof and sleep where no one sees us. What you're witnessing isn't so much poverty but insanity.

bloomingkales 2y ago
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- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  You're both talking past each other in a high-handed way that speaks perfectly to why this is a problem that's not only unsolved, but toxic to try and solve.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    I'm not even sure it's a problem so much as a symptom. If you see someone with shortness of breath, normally offering some oxygen might help them. Unless of course they have COPD, in which case that may very well kill them.
  - bloomingkales 2y ago
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johnnyanmac 2y ago
I can't even find work with experience and a clean record. I can't imagine how bad it'd be to find minimum wage work while not having an address to full a form out with. If it's been a whine for you it's gotten so much worse. >Most the people actually on the street are nuts or drugged out The most obvious, in your face example are the crazy ones. For basic human survival we remember those the most. But I bet most homeless people are just a person on the streets getting by. Not even the ones begging for change. It's a lot harder to get by in CA though.
- ty6853 2y ago
  If nothing else works I've also fallen back on commercial fishing in the Bering Sea near AK (free food and board included), and hitch hiking to north Dakota to work on the oil rush. I don't know if they still hire but usually they'll hire anyone and maybe give you free board. The address you out down generally isn't checked, I'll leave it at that. Putting professional work experience is a no no for minimum wage job. Word your experience to make it sound much more laborious and uneducated.

throwaway7783 2y ago

Yes, you can draw a line wherever your moral compass tells you to. My point was not about morality. It is just that regardless of what you think of morals as an individual, these people are all still part of the same society, and parts of both problems and solutions. And in many parts of the world you have to be lucky not to see/experience poverty from up close.

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