6 ms·
I'm new to kindle, I've been into this since 2021 so im not so aware of kindle's jailbreaking history. Can you tell me what gaolbreak is?
by diana-404 2y ago
I'm new to kindle, I've been into this since 2021 so im not so aware of kindle's jailbreaking history. Can you tell me what gaolbreak is?
- shasheene 2y agoGaol is an archaic spelling of jail, that retains the same pronunciation and meaning as jail :)
- dgfitz 2y agoSo “gaol” is supposedly an alternative way to spell “jail” that I first encountered in a video game. I keep seeing “tyre” on here too. I guess hn is hipster for alternative spellings.
- richiebful1 2y ago"tyre" is just UK English
- ggm 2y agoAs is gaol
- petesergeant 2y agoWhich dictionary are you using that doesn’t mark it as an archaic form in British English?
- FabHK 2y agoMerriam-Webster has it as "chiefly British spelling" of jail, and Oxford English Dictionary has it as a "variant". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaol https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaol https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?q=gaol https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?q=gaol
- thaumasiotes 2y agoMore significantly, Collins just says "British a variant spelling of jail". https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gaol https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gaol I believe Collins is the standard dictionary that British people use, much like Merriam-Webster for Americans.
- petesergeant 2y ago> I believe Collins is the standard dictionary that British people use And you would be wrong. They've only been putting out a dictionary since 1979. OED[0] is The Dictionary in the UK, and I've quoted its take on it in an adjacent comment. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary
- thaumasiotes 2y agoWell, come on, that's obviously false. Zero percent of British people own an OED or even have the resources necessary to consult one when they want to look something up. It costs over a thousand US dollars.
- sulluk 2y agoI don't disagree that practically zero percent don't own a copy, but pretty much anyone in the UK can access the OED with a free library membership. It's pretty much the only thing I use my library card for these days. If people do use a dictionary these days they most likely do use a Collins or Oxford Dictionaries (not the same as the OED). But I imagine that most people would just use a Google search and rely on the top box which itself is using Oxford Dictionaries for its definitions.
- petesergeant 2y ago> Zero percent of British people own an OED I suspect fewer than 1% of British people own any paper English-language dictionary, but the sort of people who need a dictionary beyond what dictionary.com can offer will have online access through their employer, their institution, their local UK public library, or for the princely sum of £8/m for a personal account when paying annually. Regardless, the authority that the OED holds on British English is best understood through the criticism section of it on Wikipedia, with people decrying its absolutely overwhelming influence: > criticizing the OED is extremely difficult because "one is dealing not just with a dictionary but with a national institution", one that "has become, like the English monarchy, virtually immune from criticism in principle"
- technothrasher 2y agoI see gaol a lot here in New England historic places. There are plenty of old crumbling "town gaols" and such.
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoI did some googling and it turns out "gaol" was indeed the more popular spelling, but only up until 1960 when "jail" took over; numbers: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=gaol%2Cjail&year_start=1700&year_end=2019&corpus=29&smoothing=30# https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=gaol%2Cjail&ye...
- andyjohnson0 2y agoBrit here. Nobody here says "gaol" in normal speech or writing. Usually "prison", sometimes "jail".
- ggm 2y agoHow do you know if they SAY jail or gaol given they're pronounced the same, being alternate spellings of the same word? Nobody writes/uses I can concur. The pedantry here, is somewhat apposite surely?
- andyjohnson0 2y agoFair enough. No one writes it then. Although it could be a world thats only ever spoken. If there is such a thing.
- me-vs-cat 2y agoI could tell you more words that are only ever spoken, but not here.
- hnbad 2y agoPet peeve of mine but technically prison is for convicts, jail is for those yet awaiting a conviction but who aren't trusted to show up to court if allowed to roam freely. That the jail system (in the US especially) has essentially become a form of preemptive incarceration without the presumption of innocence is largely an artefact of the bond system, the overwhelmed courts and the perverse incentives in all of those systems from law enforcement to private prisons. I realize the terms are often used interchangeably but I think the distinction is important especially because of the implications for presumption of innocence from conflating the two.
- dragonwriter 2y ago> Pet peeve of mine but technically prison is for convicts, jail is for those yet awaiting a conviction but who aren't trusted to show up to court if allowed to roam freely. Pet peeve, but despite being a frequently claimed technical distinction, this is wrong both in terms of the strict definition of the terms and the way they are used as names of real institutions (though it is approximately true in most US state justice systems—but not the federal system—if you consider only felony crimes.)
- Denote6737 2y agoAs a life long englishman, this thread is the first time i've encounterd "gaol" as a word. Not an english spelling.
- golem14 2y agoP G Wodehouse uses the term, I’m fairly sure.
- mvdtnz 2y ago"Tyre" is extremely common throughout most of the English speaking world. "Gaol" is used by attention-seeking Australians desperately hoping to kick off dumb threads like this.
- singingfish 2y agoTyre is clearly the correct spelling. I quickly tire of anyone claiming otherwise. Gaol is an archaic spelling which I've found incredibly confusing ever since I was a small kid a long long time ago.
- emmelaich 2y agoIn Australia, gaol is far more common than jail. Neither are used anymore really. It's more often just prison or penitentiary. Some of Australia's more popular historical sites are old gaols.
- LordKeren 2y agoShout out to Elden Ring
- tspng 2y agoNever expected HN to explain to me what "evergaol" means, but here I am. Thanks :)
- TaurenHunter 2y agoIt is a very old jailbreak: Ye Olde Gaolbreak! One had to bribe the town constable with a ha’penny and a pint of mead just to install a third-party reading app. Dost thou even root, sir?
- user_7832 2y agoGawdamn, whatever happened to a respectable old Mediatek vulnerability being exploited by a suspicious app on ya computer that called itself something funny like Kingoroot? (Sidenote but I'm still impressed that thing would work without giving my computer half a dozen viruses)