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Elon Musk's terrifying vision for AI
- getnormality 2y agoGrok promoting X as a space of unvarnished truth reminds one of the famous 2011 dril tweet. > fuck "jokes". everything i tweet is real. raw insight without the horse shit. no, i will NOT follow trolls. twitter dot com. i live for this
- moralestapia 2y agoI mean you can build your own model or use any of the others out there ...
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- jrflowers 2y agoThis makes sense. The solution to seeing people around you falling for automated propaganda is to ask chat gpt to write you a grocery list
- Steven420 2y agoYou cannot build your own model. AI models these days take Elon musk amounts of money which is why he has one and you and I don't
- moralestapia 2y agoSure, pal. Elon's model is the only one out there. Weakest argument ever, lmao.
- dgfitz 2y ago> In short LLMs can influence people’s attitudes; people may not even know they have been influenced; and if you warn them, they can still be affected. Sounds like tiktok
- giuseppe_petri 2y ago>Sounds like tiktok And 24 hour news TV, and newspapers... magazines... Steve in accounts... Any person that is easily lead, will be influenced regardless of the source.
- sva_ 2y ago> Grok 3 is designed to be a nuclear propaganda weapon, and Musk is proud of it. Any proof other than speculating based on that one screenshot? How can Gary Marcus know what it is designed for, if it isn't even out yet?
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- rl3 2y ago[original point drowned out by needless pedantry] https://thehardtimes.net/blog/why-i-quit-my-job-and-left-my-wife-to-defend-elon-musk-online-full-time/ https://thehardtimes.net/blog/why-i-quit-my-job-and-left-my-...
- sealeck 2y agoMachines are starting to "think" in the same way that ELIZA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) is a good conversationalist; it's a mirage.
- rvz 2y agoThis is actually an emerging scam. Those pushing the idea that these AI systems are "thinking" always have something to sell you to believe the lie. The reality is, they generate as much plausible-looking responses to the untrained eye, only for any domain expert to verify that it produced nonsense (with the wrong citations). Again, the ones spreading the AI hype are giving vacuous predictions of a utopian future with UBI, no more humans working which is being repeated by those fully invested in the AI race when the reality is the exact opposite and will try to use it as an excuse to displace your job. It is a giant scam that is being allowed to happen, Why? Because they are directly invested in it; including Elon, Sam and all the private investors you already know about who won't say the truth.
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- brookst 2y agoThis is more ideological ranting than any kind of reality. LLMs certainly aren’t perfect, but the idea that they cannot do anything a domain expert finds accurate is false.
- biophysboy 2y agoIf A and B generate an essay, and A produces it through thinking, that does not mean that B did the same.
- WaltYoder 2y agoYeah, it's cringe, but if LLMs are as useless as Gary Marcus insists they are, why should we worry?
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- pstuart 2y agoWhen you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. - Franklin Leonard
- Bjorkbat 2y agoTo be fair I'm pretty sure Gary Marcus did in fact bring that up at one point, and if I recall correctly the incident was embarrassing enough for Google to briefly pause the generation of AI images until it could correct the awkward bias in its image generation model.
- pstuart 2y agoWhat kind of pearl clutching should one do if Google is so audacious as to have their doodle recognize "ethnic minorities"?
- spiderfarmer 2y agoThe pearl clutching was intense enough to make prime time news in my country.
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- adamredwoods 2y agoHistory is written by the victors. Information will be controlled by the billionaires. What you need to know, or think you need to know, will be controlled. And why not? Google has been doing it for years. Hurst, Murdoch. LLMs are biased. I would debate that it is difficult NOT to have an unbiased LLM, unless your LLM only gives answers to pure logic questions, and deliberately does not answer any questions that have a dependency on an individual's perspective (ie. Why are tariffs good? Why are tariffs bad?). X is completely biased, no consensus-based fact checking. Of course the owner will sell it as "truth" when it is mostly the exact opposite. Truth can be forced out, by liars who talk louder, or by controlling the faucet from which information flows.
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- spiderfarmer 2y agoIf you look at Yuri Bezmenov’s ideological subversion framework (demoralization, destabilization, crisis, normalization), Musk’s actions unintentionally fit the pattern. He constantly undermines trust in institutions (demoralization), creates chaos in media and finance (destabilization), fuels constant controversy (crisis), and normalizes the idea that disruption = leadership. Whether he’s doing this deliberately or just having fun trolling is debatable, but the effect is similar.
- spiderfarmer 2y agoDoes Elon even have a vision for the future, or is he just obsessed with the engagement metrics for his next tweet? His posts nowadays feel like a carefully balanced science experiment — one part rage bait for people who believe in decency, one part dopamine drip for his loyal fanbase who think being a contrarian will increase your chances of becoming a billionaire.
- oskarkk 2y agoWhile I agree that AI talking like that is totally unacceptable, isn't that example of Grok's stupidity at the end kinda useless as an example? Mixing text with images and logic is one thing that (all?) current image generation models are very bad at. I asked ChatGPT to generate the same thing ("create an image of five different basic geometric shapes and label each one"), and it made essentially the same errors as Grok. https://chatgpt.com/share/67b2a77b-adf4-8009-8b91-99321c6dad59 https://chatgpt.com/share/67b2a77b-adf4-8009-8b91-99321c6dad...
- waltercool 2y agoAI is not intended to be used unattended. It will get better over time, but it will never be perfect using the current paradigm (RNG and tensors)
- waltercool 2y agoThis article was written by a technological conservative for sure. Just like Ted Kaczynski mistake, technology is there and nothing you or me can do to prevent anything. I feel this is a right move overall. Companies who use AI for customer support are really idiots, anyone can jailbreak AI and force them to give you absurd deals. I'm more than happy to see those lazy business go broke
- globalnode 2y agoThis is all easily solvable. Just stop talking about him and stop using X'odus. Power's in your hands.
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- tim333 2y agoAs probably the 2nd most powerful guy in the US who's currently busy getting everyone's info and firing thousands, ignoring him may not work that well. Even in the UK he's had a go at getting rid of our PM and putting Tommy Robinson of all people in charge. ('Tommy' is an anti Islam petty criminal).
- rsynnott 2y agoI mean, it's terrifying _if anyone actually uses this thing_. It's not particularly clear why anyone would, though.
- sreid99 2y agoIf Musk buys OpenAI, one worrying use could also be for, likely effective, far-right AI propaganda bots on X / Twitter.