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This seems like it's conflating problems? "All devices are routeable" is a good idea, because it means when we want devices to be routeable there's a simple an
by XorNot 2y ago
This seems like it's conflating problems?
"All devices are routeable" is a good idea, because it means when we want devices to be routeable there's a simple and obvious way that should be done.
Where we've ended up with NAT though is worse though: we still need a lot of devices to routeable, and so we enable all sorts of workarounds and non-obvious ways to make it happen, giving both an unreasonable illusion of security and making network configuration sufficiently unintuitive we're increasing the risk of failures.
Something like UPnP for example - shouldn't exist (and in fact I have it turned off these days because UDP hole-punching works just fine, but all of this is insane).
- aboardRat4 2y agoNAT is not an illusion of security, it's very practical security. Just look at the distribution of successful attacks in 2000 and in 2025.
- vel0city 2y agoYes, because NAT was the only notable change in home computing between 2000 and 2025. Totally not all the other changes that happened, 100% NAT. Yep.