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The implementation of services on Apple TV has been a awesome. We open one app when we sit down to watch our shows. It works with little-to-no technical underst

The implementation of services on Apple TV has been a awesome. We open one app when we sit down to watch our shows. It works with little-to-no technical understanding or effort. But we don't browse for stuff to watch very often. Netflix wants to get those views and autoplays. It's all about the stats boosts. We dropped Netflix a long time ago. It became a made-for-tv content sausage factory with the occasional gem. Once a year we fire it up to binge the stuff our friends talk about all the time. Each time we are consistently reminded it's not worth the higher subscription price.

EA-3167 2y ago
Netflix is by far one of the worst streaming services in terms of what they have, although they're still running a very slick interface, who cares if what it leads to is garbage? Even when you find something good, especially a series, you can't expect that it'll go anywhere: Netflix loves to cancel.
- beezlewax 2y ago
  Os the interface slick though? It's maybe visually slick over actually being good ux. It loudly autoplays it's slow and the expanding animations are nauseating
  - 0x457 2y ago
    Netflix UI in my opinion has two issues: - "Continue Watching" is always in a different place - Autoplaying trailers Everything else is alright. Every other service besides Apple TV has much worse issues with UI and UX.
- coliveira 2y ago
  They figured out that additional seasons of successful series also command high costs and actor salaries. So they prefer to spin just another cheap TV series that will keep people binge watching.
  - speed_spread 2y ago
    Funnily that's the opposite of the neverending Hollywood sequels like Marvel drivel.
    - andybak 2y ago
      Marvel's quality is varied and has dipped in the last couple of years. It's not high art by any means but I find calling it "drivel" in such a dismissive way to be a shallow take.
    - coliveira 2y ago
      Even the Marvel sequels are ending, they had to rehire a new cast to slash costs.
- vinni2 2y ago
  And yet their stock price is all time high!
fooqux 2y ago
> Netflix wants to get those views and autoplays. It's all about the stats boosts. I'm confused why this would be the case. Can you explain further? It seems to me that what Netflix actually wants is paying subscribers that don't watch anything. Bandwidth and CDNs aren't free after all.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Gotta be marginal
- madeofpalk 2y ago
  Ideally, but not realistically. Subscribers who don't watch Netflix are at the greatest risk of churning. Netflix needs you to continue seeing value out of paying/watching ads.
- coliveira 2y ago
  No, they want you to watch all the time and continue interested in the stuff they're releasing. It is their way to make sure Netflix is relevant to subscribers and they'll keep talking about the content in the platform. The problem is the quality of that content. The op is right, Netflix became a factory of cheap series that keep people binge watching. The original idea of a service to watch movies is completely lost. I stoped paying a long time ago and don't want to go back.
- eeixlk 2y ago
  Netflix streaming was originally a free perk of being a dvd subscriber, because the hosting service was so much more efficient than the cost of mailing a physical object to your house and back. Now many ISPs have dedicated netflix storage appliances on site that further reduce bandwidth. Also if you are on an ad based plan they would want you to use the service more.
dyauspitr 2y ago
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- duxup 2y ago
  I'm going to perhaps be foolish and say, I honestly don't feel like I've seen any "feminist drivel"...
- marssaxman 2y ago
  This puts me in mind of the classic George Carlin bit about other drivers all being either idiots or maniacs, and how you can use their relative proportions in the population to understand what other people probably think of your own driving.
- jusonchan81 2y ago
  I thought what you are seeing is personalized for you.
  - Pommo88 2y ago
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- Pommo88 2y ago
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  - dyauspitr 2y ago
    I like all the other propaganda, just not the feminist/LGBTQ stuff.
    - Pommo88 2y ago
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      - dyauspitr 2y ago
        I mean I still hate Nazis, I just don’t like runaway feminism.
heraldgeezer 2y ago
>It became a made-for-tv content sausage factory with the occasional gem. So just like Apple TV TV then?
- frantathefranta 2y ago
  If you mean Apple TV+ (the streaming service), there is a day and night difference between it and Netflix with regards to the average quality of shows.
  - josteink 2y ago
    Maybe I’m weird, but to me all the Apple TV+ shows really comes off with the same (to me at least) vibe, like it was made in the same factory, following the same recipe. It instantly degrades what could/might be art to mere «content» and it’s a huge turn off. I don’t think I’ve ever finished more than 1 full season of a Apple TV+ show. That said, I’m not claiming Netflix is any better.
    - gorlilla 2y ago
      You're not weird, unless we both are, which is equally possible.
bsimpson 2y ago
My Netflix subscription ends today after 15y. I watched it plenty in the late 00s when it had awesome content, and I was afraid to cancel even if I wasn't actively using it because it had the best recommendations. Since then, they've constantly hiked the price and have lost their content edge. My parents watched my account though, so I kept it around as a gift to them + a way to have something to do on overnight flights. They finally locked my parents out (after talking it up in the press for months), so they've lost any reason to stay on my credit card. Feels like there's been generational churn in leadership among the places that were great in the 00s - Netflix and Google both come to mind. The people who did cool, novel stuff have retired, and the traditional execs who will squeeze every dime they can out of customers (and employee perks) have shown up. I don't like it.
dlcarrier 2y ago
Yeah, Apple doesn't want Netflix recommending their own shows for free, when Apple could be recommending their own shows, are charging Netflix to recommend theirs. Of course Netflix doesn't want Apple to have control of the interface to the Netflix streaming service, just as much as Apple doesn't want Netflix to have control of the interface to Apple's streaming service.
daft_pink 2y ago
I’ve really been enjoying just buying classic movies and shows on Apple TV to binge watch instead of having a ton of subscriptions. The quality is always the best available and I have a collection of awesome content to watch that I have never seen in 4k with awesome sound from an awesome device. I feel its money better spent than a subscription.

EA-3167 2y ago

Netflix is by far one of the worst streaming services in terms of what they have, although they're still running a very slick interface, who cares if what it leads to is garbage? Even when you find something good, especially a series, you can't expect that it'll go anywhere: Netflix loves to cancel.

beezlewax 2y ago
Os the interface slick though? It's maybe visually slick over actually being good ux. It loudly autoplays it's slow and the expanding animations are nauseating
- 0x457 2y ago
  Netflix UI in my opinion has two issues: - "Continue Watching" is always in a different place - Autoplaying trailers Everything else is alright. Every other service besides Apple TV has much worse issues with UI and UX.
coliveira 2y ago
They figured out that additional seasons of successful series also command high costs and actor salaries. So they prefer to spin just another cheap TV series that will keep people binge watching.
- speed_spread 2y ago
  Funnily that's the opposite of the neverending Hollywood sequels like Marvel drivel.
  - andybak 2y ago
    Marvel's quality is varied and has dipped in the last couple of years. It's not high art by any means but I find calling it "drivel" in such a dismissive way to be a shallow take.
  - coliveira 2y ago
    Even the Marvel sequels are ending, they had to rehire a new cast to slash costs.
vinni2 2y ago
And yet their stock price is all time high!

fooqux 2y ago

> Netflix wants to get those views and autoplays. It's all about the stats boosts. I'm confused why this would be the case. Can you explain further? It seems to me that what Netflix actually wants is paying subscribers that don't watch anything. Bandwidth and CDNs aren't free after all.

actionfromafar 2y ago
Gotta be marginal
madeofpalk 2y ago
Ideally, but not realistically. Subscribers who don't watch Netflix are at the greatest risk of churning. Netflix needs you to continue seeing value out of paying/watching ads.
coliveira 2y ago
No, they want you to watch all the time and continue interested in the stuff they're releasing. It is their way to make sure Netflix is relevant to subscribers and they'll keep talking about the content in the platform. The problem is the quality of that content. The op is right, Netflix became a factory of cheap series that keep people binge watching. The original idea of a service to watch movies is completely lost. I stoped paying a long time ago and don't want to go back.
eeixlk 2y ago
Netflix streaming was originally a free perk of being a dvd subscriber, because the hosting service was so much more efficient than the cost of mailing a physical object to your house and back. Now many ISPs have dedicated netflix storage appliances on site that further reduce bandwidth. Also if you are on an ad based plan they would want you to use the service more.

dyauspitr 2y ago

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duxup 2y ago
I'm going to perhaps be foolish and say, I honestly don't feel like I've seen any "feminist drivel"...
marssaxman 2y ago
This puts me in mind of the classic George Carlin bit about other drivers all being either idiots or maniacs, and how you can use their relative proportions in the population to understand what other people probably think of your own driving.
jusonchan81 2y ago
I thought what you are seeing is personalized for you.
- Pommo88 2y ago
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Pommo88 2y ago
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- dyauspitr 2y ago
  I like all the other propaganda, just not the feminist/LGBTQ stuff.
  - Pommo88 2y ago
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    - dyauspitr 2y ago
      I mean I still hate Nazis, I just don’t like runaway feminism.

heraldgeezer 2y ago

>It became a made-for-tv content sausage factory with the occasional gem. So just like Apple TV TV then?

frantathefranta 2y ago
If you mean Apple TV+ (the streaming service), there is a day and night difference between it and Netflix with regards to the average quality of shows.
- josteink 2y ago
  Maybe I’m weird, but to me all the Apple TV+ shows really comes off with the same (to me at least) vibe, like it was made in the same factory, following the same recipe. It instantly degrades what could/might be art to mere «content» and it’s a huge turn off. I don’t think I’ve ever finished more than 1 full season of a Apple TV+ show. That said, I’m not claiming Netflix is any better.
  - gorlilla 2y ago
    You're not weird, unless we both are, which is equally possible.

bsimpson 2y ago

My Netflix subscription ends today after 15y. I watched it plenty in the late 00s when it had awesome content, and I was afraid to cancel even if I wasn't actively using it because it had the best recommendations. Since then, they've constantly hiked the price and have lost their content edge. My parents watched my account though, so I kept it around as a gift to them + a way to have something to do on overnight flights. They finally locked my parents out (after talking it up in the press for months), so they've lost any reason to stay on my credit card. Feels like there's been generational churn in leadership among the places that were great in the 00s - Netflix and Google both come to mind. The people who did cool, novel stuff have retired, and the traditional execs who will squeeze every dime they can out of customers (and employee perks) have shown up. I don't like it.

dlcarrier 2y ago

Yeah, Apple doesn't want Netflix recommending their own shows for free, when Apple could be recommending their own shows, are charging Netflix to recommend theirs. Of course Netflix doesn't want Apple to have control of the interface to the Netflix streaming service, just as much as Apple doesn't want Netflix to have control of the interface to Apple's streaming service.

daft_pink 2y ago

I’ve really been enjoying just buying classic movies and shows on Apple TV to binge watch instead of having a ton of subscriptions. The quality is always the best available and I have a collection of awesome content to watch that I have never seen in 4k with awesome sound from an awesome device. I feel its money better spent than a subscription.