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> much greater weight It was part of the astroturf effort to convince people that they are massively heavier, and you see it was successful with comments like

> much greater weight It was part of the astroturf effort to convince people that they are massively heavier, and you see it was successful with comments like this where it is claimed that they are “much greater” in weight with nothing quantified. Of course the hummer was heavier, but not everyone has the hummer. > full electric versions are only around 10% to 15% heavier than their direct ICE equivalent. https://thedriven.io/2024/05/03/are-evs-really-much-heavier-than-their-ice-equivalents/amp/ https://thedriven.io/2024/05/03/are-evs-really-much-heavier-... > Starting with the Tesla Model 3 weighing in at between 1777Kg and 1840Kg > A comparable ICE car the BMW 3 series 1570Kg - 1965Kg > And another ICE car the Mercedes C class 1665Kg - 2190Kg > And finally another EV the Ford Mustang Mach-E 1993Kg - 2218Kg https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-perception-of-Tesla-cars-being-heavy-compared-to-other-cars-Is-there-a-significant-difference-in-weight-between-Tesla-models-and-other-cars https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-perception-of-Tesla-cars-b...

akoboldfrying 2y ago
> > full electric versions are only around 10% to 15% heavier than their direct ICE equivalent. The actual range quoted in the table at that link is 11%-17%. > > A comparable ICE car the BMW 3 series 1570Kg - 1965Kg Interesting that one "ICE" car can vary in weight by over 25%, or almost 400kg. Maybe it's because that weight "range" isn't really for that ICE car. The low end of the range is suspiciously close to the 1590kg figure for the BMW 320i, an actual ICE car: https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-sedan/bmw-3-series-sedan.html/bmw-320i-sedan.bmw https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-se... While the upper end of the range is suspiciously close to the 1910kg of the BMW 330e -- a plug-in hybrid: https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-sedan/bmw-3-series-sedan.html/bmw-330e-plug_in-hybrid.bmw https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-se... I guess both sides can astroturf.
- thebruce87m 2y ago
  I didn’t take me long to find this: https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/BMW/119385/BMW-G20-3-Series-M340d-xDrive.html https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/BMW/119385/BMW-G20-3... > Curb Weight : 4206 lbs / 1908 kg I suspect if I looked through every model I’d find heavier ICE only but close enough I’d say.

akoboldfrying 2y ago

> > full electric versions are only around 10% to 15% heavier than their direct ICE equivalent. The actual range quoted in the table at that link is 11%-17%. > > A comparable ICE car the BMW 3 series 1570Kg - 1965Kg Interesting that one "ICE" car can vary in weight by over 25%, or almost 400kg. Maybe it's because that weight "range" isn't really for that ICE car. The low end of the range is suspiciously close to the 1590kg figure for the BMW 320i, an actual ICE car: https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-sedan/bmw-3-series-sedan.html/bmw-320i-sedan.bmw https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-se... While the upper end of the range is suspiciously close to the 1910kg of the BMW 330e -- a plug-in hybrid: https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-sedan/bmw-3-series-sedan.html/bmw-330e-plug_in-hybrid.bmw https://www.bmw.co.nz/en/all-models/3-series/bmw-3-series-se... I guess both sides can astroturf.

thebruce87m 2y ago
I didn’t take me long to find this: https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/BMW/119385/BMW-G20-3-Series-M340d-xDrive.html https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/BMW/119385/BMW-G20-3... > Curb Weight : 4206 lbs / 1908 kg I suspect if I looked through every model I’d find heavier ICE only but close enough I’d say.