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> extremely good products being free All the Apple ecosystem is subsidized by the price of the iPhones and Macs. There is no excuse for putting ads in such exp

> extremely good products being free All the Apple ecosystem is subsidized by the price of the iPhones and Macs. There is no excuse for putting ads in such expensive products. And it's one reason why I'm moving away from Apple but that's another story.

monsieurgaufre 2y ago
Moving to where? Thinking of moving away from Apple as well.
- JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago
  I’m personally moving to the Fairphone with preinstalled e/os. A phone that I control, can repair, and has more privacy than the other OS is what I expected from Apple until the past decade where they decided that privacy was a joke.
- aykay55 2y ago
  It's simply not wise when everybody owns an iPhone and leaving iMessage will lead to social ostracization.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
What are you moving to? Windows is worse. Android phones have various issues with privacy or security. Linux products aren’t anywhere near ready (compare battery life between system76 and a MacBook for example). There just isn’t enough competition.
- lern_too_spel 2y ago
  Android phones have fewer issues with privacy and security than Apple phones. You can install a fully offline mapping application on Android and have it be your default navigation app. Unlike with iOS (which tells Apple everything you've installed and run), you don't have to tell anyone you installed it, and also unlike iOS (which sends all GPS data to Apple), you don't have to tell anyone your GPS location. Apple marketing saying they care about privacy doesn't make it true.
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    What are good choices on phones? Pixel seems like it would leak things to Google. And as I understand Samsung phones have lots of preinstalled garbage.
    - nolist_policy 2y ago
      Pixel with GrapheneOS if ypu want to take this seriously. If you're in EU: Samsung falls under the DMA ruling, so you get to disable most superflous apps with a single checkbox at setup time.
    - lern_too_spel 2y ago
      You can install whatever you want on any Android phone from a reputable vendor, including Pixel phones. If you don't want to send data to Google (aside from OS updates), just replace any Google apps with non-Google apps.
JKCalhoun 2y ago
Apple's ecosystem is the worst, except for all the others.
aykay55 2y ago
The excuse is more free money. If millions of users rely on the Maps app for recommendations for food places and service centers, why shouldn't Apple exploit their position of power for financial gains?

monsieurgaufre 2y ago

Moving to where? Thinking of moving away from Apple as well.

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y ago
I’m personally moving to the Fairphone with preinstalled e/os. A phone that I control, can repair, and has more privacy than the other OS is what I expected from Apple until the past decade where they decided that privacy was a joke.
aykay55 2y ago
It's simply not wise when everybody owns an iPhone and leaving iMessage will lead to social ostracization.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

What are you moving to? Windows is worse. Android phones have various issues with privacy or security. Linux products aren’t anywhere near ready (compare battery life between system76 and a MacBook for example). There just isn’t enough competition.

lern_too_spel 2y ago
Android phones have fewer issues with privacy and security than Apple phones. You can install a fully offline mapping application on Android and have it be your default navigation app. Unlike with iOS (which tells Apple everything you've installed and run), you don't have to tell anyone you installed it, and also unlike iOS (which sends all GPS data to Apple), you don't have to tell anyone your GPS location. Apple marketing saying they care about privacy doesn't make it true.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  What are good choices on phones? Pixel seems like it would leak things to Google. And as I understand Samsung phones have lots of preinstalled garbage.
  - nolist_policy 2y ago
    Pixel with GrapheneOS if ypu want to take this seriously. If you're in EU: Samsung falls under the DMA ruling, so you get to disable most superflous apps with a single checkbox at setup time.
  - lern_too_spel 2y ago
    You can install whatever you want on any Android phone from a reputable vendor, including Pixel phones. If you don't want to send data to Google (aside from OS updates), just replace any Google apps with non-Google apps.

JKCalhoun 2y ago

Apple's ecosystem is the worst, except for all the others.

aykay55 2y ago

The excuse is more free money. If millions of users rely on the Maps app for recommendations for food places and service centers, why shouldn't Apple exploit their position of power for financial gains?