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> how they feel finding out the rest of the world has all this amazing stuff and cheap easy eats I wonder how they feel finding out the rest of the world has s

by Qem 2y ago

> how they feel finding out the rest of the world has all this amazing stuff and cheap easy eats I wonder how they feel finding out the rest of the world has some nasty infectious diseases and people there need to work their asses of for 30+ years to pay their mortgage and have a roof.

batch12 2y ago
These tribes have no sickness and don't have to work hard for food or shelter? Sign me up.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  Less infectious diseases like colds etc. that spread human-to-human seems likely given the isolation and lower population numbers. Where would the diseases come from? Of course, if they don't have access to antibiotics, they have other much worse kinds of sickness to deal with, and even their relatively simple lifestyle will be hard to maintain without hard work...
- JKCalhoun 2y ago
  So native Hawaiians. As I understand it, when corporate start setting up pineapple and sugar plantations in Hawaii they found they could not get cheap labor from the Hawaiian people themselves. And why would they? Between fish and fruit they have all the food they need. A simple structure (on the preferred side of the island) is all you need for shelter. So they brought in Chinese laborers.
gus_massa 2y ago
A roof, walls, windows and net in the windows to keep mosquitoes away at night, and avoid malaria and similar mosquito transmited illness. I'd add Chagas-Mazza that is tranmited by other bug but it's probably endemic there. Also, tap water or at least a well. During tje first year, children get like 20 or 25 vaccines. Some of the ilness are very rare and they may not know them, but other are just severe diarhea caused by a common bacteria. And add antibiotics for other common problems.
tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
The mortgage gives you a roof that far surpasses the comforts of what would be a royal palace for an uncontacted tribe. If you're ok with a lifestyle on the level that they get (with hard, dangerous work), you can have it quite easily in today's society. Go far enough into a forest and you'll likely be left alone when you build a primitive hut, except that now an hour of work buys you a lighter, a knife of unachievable quality, a pack of pills that save you from dying from infection, or "firewood" (a propane cartridge) for days.
- eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago
  > If you're ok with a lifestyle on the level that they get (with hard, dangerous work), you can have it quite easily in today's society. There are very few places left in the world where that is true. Governments basically all hate stateless people. There's been a long history of forcing "civilization" on stateless people "for their own good", but really it's because they can't be easily controlled or taxed.

by Qem 2y ago

batch12 2y ago

These tribes have no sickness and don't have to work hard for food or shelter? Sign me up.

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
Less infectious diseases like colds etc. that spread human-to-human seems likely given the isolation and lower population numbers. Where would the diseases come from? Of course, if they don't have access to antibiotics, they have other much worse kinds of sickness to deal with, and even their relatively simple lifestyle will be hard to maintain without hard work...
JKCalhoun 2y ago
So native Hawaiians. As I understand it, when corporate start setting up pineapple and sugar plantations in Hawaii they found they could not get cheap labor from the Hawaiian people themselves. And why would they? Between fish and fruit they have all the food they need. A simple structure (on the preferred side of the island) is all you need for shelter. So they brought in Chinese laborers.

gus_massa 2y ago

A roof, walls, windows and net in the windows to keep mosquitoes away at night, and avoid malaria and similar mosquito transmited illness. I'd add Chagas-Mazza that is tranmited by other bug but it's probably endemic there. Also, tap water or at least a well. During tje first year, children get like 20 or 25 vaccines. Some of the ilness are very rare and they may not know them, but other are just severe diarhea caused by a common bacteria. And add antibiotics for other common problems.

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago

The mortgage gives you a roof that far surpasses the comforts of what would be a royal palace for an uncontacted tribe. If you're ok with a lifestyle on the level that they get (with hard, dangerous work), you can have it quite easily in today's society. Go far enough into a forest and you'll likely be left alone when you build a primitive hut, except that now an hour of work buys you a lighter, a knife of unachievable quality, a pack of pills that save you from dying from infection, or "firewood" (a propane cartridge) for days.

eudhxhdhsb32 2y ago
> If you're ok with a lifestyle on the level that they get (with hard, dangerous work), you can have it quite easily in today's society. There are very few places left in the world where that is true. Governments basically all hate stateless people. There's been a long history of forcing "civilization" on stateless people "for their own good", but really it's because they can't be easily controlled or taxed.