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Humans are clearly bad at analyzing other people emotions based on how much misunderstanding there are out there. Just look at how bad people are in relationshi

Humans are clearly bad at analyzing other people emotions based on how much misunderstanding there are out there. Just look at how bad people are in relationships. Someone shared their experience in an event talking to a girl. I just listened, thinking, "Do they not realize that you were clearly in the wrong here?".

wruza 2y ago
There’s a huge difference between analyzing emotions and being well-trained on a spectrum of behaviors. You may spend hours at a therapist to understand your own emotions, but then you go out and are expected to read people in seconds. That’s nonsense. I will even say bullshit. You may just know the social protocols better, but there’s nothing to analyze usually. It’s all common bugs in the heads of those you communicate with. The true analysis could be possible if people expressed their emotions properly, but most social games are almost designed to be as misleading as possible.
- anon-3988 2y ago
  > It’s all common bugs in the heads of those you communicate with. The problem is that people are not equipped to fix those bugs, its very hard to fix a bug with a buggy software after all. Which is why, a second opinion, in this case, an AI (or a therapist, a friend, etc) will help significantly. I _should_ have commented on it, but I kept quite. If he really wanted to know what went wrong, I should have told him what happened, but I don't know that. If he had some ML chatbot analyzing the images and such, he would have had a second opinion.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
Reading a facial expression is one thing. But I think what you're talking about is someone's ability to simulate the internal state of someone else. Or its little brother: simulating it correctly and then getting mad at the result due to ego.
cardanome 2y ago
Misunderstanding will always be a fact of life. The diversity of humans makes it impossible to reliably interpret other people's emotions, especially when there is not a strong cultural context. We just need to learn to communicate openly and explicitly. What creeps me out is that so many people have zero self-awareness that there is a difference between what has been communicated and their interpenetration of it. They will be in a bad mood and conclude the text they just received must have been written in a very rude "tone". They see your face and conclude you must be angry at them. They take their subjective interpretation as the same as the objective truth and absolute hate to be challenged. The believe themselves to be "empaths" and "good communicators". If you think you are very accurate at understanding other people's emotions, you are not. That is not possible. The inside state of people can not be measured by looking at their outside expression, you can only make predictions. You have to ask people how they feel.
dyauspitr 2y ago
One of the problems here is that “wrong” is not universal in places that don’t have a single, universal culture.

wruza 2y ago

There’s a huge difference between analyzing emotions and being well-trained on a spectrum of behaviors. You may spend hours at a therapist to understand your own emotions, but then you go out and are expected to read people in seconds. That’s nonsense. I will even say bullshit. You may just know the social protocols better, but there’s nothing to analyze usually. It’s all common bugs in the heads of those you communicate with. The true analysis could be possible if people expressed their emotions properly, but most social games are almost designed to be as misleading as possible.

anon-3988 2y ago
> It’s all common bugs in the heads of those you communicate with. The problem is that people are not equipped to fix those bugs, its very hard to fix a bug with a buggy software after all. Which is why, a second opinion, in this case, an AI (or a therapist, a friend, etc) will help significantly. I _should_ have commented on it, but I kept quite. If he really wanted to know what went wrong, I should have told him what happened, but I don't know that. If he had some ML chatbot analyzing the images and such, he would have had a second opinion.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

Reading a facial expression is one thing. But I think what you're talking about is someone's ability to simulate the internal state of someone else. Or its little brother: simulating it correctly and then getting mad at the result due to ego.

cardanome 2y ago

Misunderstanding will always be a fact of life. The diversity of humans makes it impossible to reliably interpret other people's emotions, especially when there is not a strong cultural context. We just need to learn to communicate openly and explicitly. What creeps me out is that so many people have zero self-awareness that there is a difference between what has been communicated and their interpenetration of it. They will be in a bad mood and conclude the text they just received must have been written in a very rude "tone". They see your face and conclude you must be angry at them. They take their subjective interpretation as the same as the objective truth and absolute hate to be challenged. The believe themselves to be "empaths" and "good communicators". If you think you are very accurate at understanding other people's emotions, you are not. That is not possible. The inside state of people can not be measured by looking at their outside expression, you can only make predictions. You have to ask people how they feel.

dyauspitr 2y ago

One of the problems here is that “wrong” is not universal in places that don’t have a single, universal culture.