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my perspective is someone where the city has been largely built for cycling, which leads to less deaths overall. Population of Malmo is actually higher than Or

by dijit 2y ago

my perspective is someone where the city has been largely built for cycling, which leads to less deaths overall. Population of Malmo is actually higher than Orlando, FL for example. Yet, for Skåne (the region where Malmo is; pop: 1,421,781), 25 traffic deaths were recorded in the year 2019[0]. 173 road deaths were recorded in Orange County (where Orlando is; pop: 1,429,908), during the same period.[1] That’s a difference of 7x, and Skåne is one of the largest regions in the country, many places are car dependent - yet the major change is that urban areas are sufficiently dense so can be cycled (even during cold climates) and that there’s dedicated infrastructure for doing so, which eases the traffic burden too. [0]: https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/press/statistik/olycksstatistik/regional_arsstatistik.xlsx https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/press/... [1]: https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=Death.DataViewer&cid=0110 https://www.flhealthcharts.gov/ChartsReports/rdPage.aspx?rdR...

lazide 2y ago
So if everything is different, everything is different?
- dijit 2y ago
  Make life require cars: more fatalities. Seems pretty evident. Arguably the conditions are better for personal electric vehicles and bicycles in Florida (than the comparatively frigid and rainy conditions of Sweden). Even the topography is flat[0][1], it's literally the perfect place for cycling, but the US has chosen something else. So, yes, if things are different they are different: comparable populations, a better climate and an equally flat topography and somehow 7x the amount of deaths; and the only difference is the approach to infrastructure by the county. [0]: https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-c3fdcz/Orange-County/?center=28.36482%2C-81.31119 https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-c3fdcz/Orange-County/?... [1]: https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-5749m/Malmö/ https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-5749m/Malmö/
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Florida may not get as cold as Sweden, but it's certainly not hurting for rain. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2024/02/02/discover-the-10-wettest-states-in-the-united-states/#:~:text=Ironically%2C%20the%20Sunshine%20State%20is,rainiest%20state%20in%20the%20nation.&text=Florida%20experiences%20more%20thunderstorms%20each%20year%20than%20any%20other%20state%20in%20the%20U.S. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2024/02/02/discover-the...
    - AnthonyMouse 2y ago
      It also has the opposite problem in terms of temperature. There are days when the wet bulb temperature in Florida requires humans to be in an air conditioned environment because they would otherwise literally die from the heat.

by dijit 2y ago

lazide 2y ago

So if everything is different, everything is different?

dijit 2y ago
Make life require cars: more fatalities. Seems pretty evident. Arguably the conditions are better for personal electric vehicles and bicycles in Florida (than the comparatively frigid and rainy conditions of Sweden). Even the topography is flat[0][1], it's literally the perfect place for cycling, but the US has chosen something else. So, yes, if things are different they are different: comparable populations, a better climate and an equally flat topography and somehow 7x the amount of deaths; and the only difference is the approach to infrastructure by the county. [0]: https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-c3fdcz/Orange-County/?center=28.36482%2C-81.31119 https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-c3fdcz/Orange-County/?... [1]: https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-5749m/Malmö/ https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-5749m/Malmö/
- fragmede 2y ago
  Florida may not get as cold as Sweden, but it's certainly not hurting for rain. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2024/02/02/discover-the-10-wettest-states-in-the-united-states/#:~:text=Ironically%2C%20the%20Sunshine%20State%20is,rainiest%20state%20in%20the%20nation.&text=Florida%20experiences%20more%20thunderstorms%20each%20year%20than%20any%20other%20state%20in%20the%20U.S. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2024/02/02/discover-the...
  - AnthonyMouse 2y ago
    It also has the opposite problem in terms of temperature. There are days when the wet bulb temperature in Florida requires humans to be in an air conditioned environment because they would otherwise literally die from the heat.