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The American left has also (always?) been anti-government overreach too. It's all a matter of who gets to define the "over" in "overreach". Laws which enforce

The American left has also (always?) been anti-government overreach too. It's all a matter of who gets to define the "over" in "overreach". Laws which enforce racial segregation are overreach, for those in the American left who support equality. Federal laws which override state segregation are overreach, for those in the American right who support structural racism. Marijuana prohibition laws - overreach, or not? Anti-mask laws - overreach, or not? Required prayer in school - overreach, or not? Anti-pollution laws - overreach, or not?

kelnos 2y ago
Please stop with the false equivalencies. I'm incredibly tired of these types of bad-faith arguments.
- anon7000 2y ago
  It’s not a false equivalency. The right frequently claims the government over reaches, and then enact their own Christian policies which have a tendency to overreach. Heard of those book bans? That’s conservative Christian overreach into state policy, which takes away freedom. What’s bad faith is claiming that more social restriction is not a form of overreach. Edit: pollution is actually a very good example. In my view, polluting my property via air or water pollution is a violation of my property rights, and is therefore unconstitutional. Companies doing so are overreaching. I would like the government to reach out and stop that. Certain Conservatives somehow don’t share this view, and think businesses should have the freedom to pollute, and wish to abolish the EPA. The government would be overstepping, to them.
- eesmith 2y ago
  It isn't a false equivalency. I'm undermining the entire assertion by pointing out the 'over' in 'overreach' is entirely in the eye of the beholder. By definition, "overreach" must be beyond the point of acceptable action, so if you're going to use that term you need to say why it's overreach. I think michaelscott, as an outsider, has bought the propaganda the right has pushing for decades, without realizing it's a falsehood. By recasting it I mean to provide context about why it's a falsehood. Some nudists think it's overreach for the government to require clothing in public? That's not really a left/right thing. Is it government overreach to have Daylight Saving Time? That's another one that seems equally pro/anti.
- TZubiri 2y ago
  No, I agree that checks and balances are bipartisan.

kelnos 2y ago

Please stop with the false equivalencies. I'm incredibly tired of these types of bad-faith arguments.

anon7000 2y ago
It’s not a false equivalency. The right frequently claims the government over reaches, and then enact their own Christian policies which have a tendency to overreach. Heard of those book bans? That’s conservative Christian overreach into state policy, which takes away freedom. What’s bad faith is claiming that more social restriction is not a form of overreach. Edit: pollution is actually a very good example. In my view, polluting my property via air or water pollution is a violation of my property rights, and is therefore unconstitutional. Companies doing so are overreaching. I would like the government to reach out and stop that. Certain Conservatives somehow don’t share this view, and think businesses should have the freedom to pollute, and wish to abolish the EPA. The government would be overstepping, to them.
eesmith 2y ago
It isn't a false equivalency. I'm undermining the entire assertion by pointing out the 'over' in 'overreach' is entirely in the eye of the beholder. By definition, "overreach" must be beyond the point of acceptable action, so if you're going to use that term you need to say why it's overreach. I think michaelscott, as an outsider, has bought the propaganda the right has pushing for decades, without realizing it's a falsehood. By recasting it I mean to provide context about why it's a falsehood. Some nudists think it's overreach for the government to require clothing in public? That's not really a left/right thing. Is it government overreach to have Daylight Saving Time? That's another one that seems equally pro/anti.
TZubiri 2y ago
No, I agree that checks and balances are bipartisan.