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It ain't just older people, either. A lot of friends in my age group and younger default to not putting on their seatbelts, and only do so if I explicitly tell

It ain't just older people, either. A lot of friends in my age group and younger default to not putting on their seatbelts, and only do so if I explicitly tell them to do so (or if they notice my truck beeping about it).

pests 2y ago
My state doesn't require rear belts but I still wear mine when sitting in the back and encourage others to do the same. My sibling had a classmate in high school who got thrown out of the rear window while the car was in a roll, crushing and killing him. It's a little crazy to me that people are perfectly comfortable going 80+ down the freeway with no belts on in the back. Like the two seat backs are enough. It reminds me of the "no smoking sections" in restaurant that were sectioned off by a half wall.
- Symbiote 2y ago
  I would refuse to start or continue a journey if any passenger behind our beside me won't wear their seat belt. Old UK safety video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWLmoeoHrP4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWLmoeoHrP4
  - fingerlocks 2y ago
    I don’t understand what happened in that video. Are we supposed to believe that the front seat will somehow move forward from the force of the rear passenger hitting it? And this force will be so great that it will crush the front driver’s skull against the steering wheel? Is that really the take-away here? If so, that’s a PSA about poor engineering and design of the driver seat and less about rear passenger seat belt safety.
    - MaxBarraclough 2y ago
      I have no particular knowledge of this topic but from this 1998 BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/128684.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/128684.stm : > It is estimated that if all rear seat belts were worn, 120 deaths and > 1,000 serious injuries could be prevented each year. Back seat > passengers are three times more likely to die in an accident if they > are not strapped in, according to the AA. > > The organisation says each year more than 50 people in the front seats > of cars are killed after being hit by back seat passengers who were > not wearing seatbelts. edit This 2018 article from the RAC also says it's real: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-warned-of-seat-belt-dangers/ https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-warne...
    - cesnja 2y ago
      Kinetic energy increases with the square of the velocity, so in a head-on collision everything not buckled on the back seat becomes a missile heading towards the passenger seats. Even a bag with a laptop is dangerous and you should put it in the foot compartment. And that's like 3kg while an average person will weigh around 70kg.
  - PlunderBunny 2y ago
    In New Zealand, the driver is responsible for ensuring all passengers are wearing seatbelts, and I believe (someone please correct me) that they can be held libel if any passenger is not wearing one.
- yellowapple 2y ago
  Even the folks up front need to be wearing one. That's how my cousin died: got thrown through the windshield in a head-on collision.

pests 2y ago

My state doesn't require rear belts but I still wear mine when sitting in the back and encourage others to do the same. My sibling had a classmate in high school who got thrown out of the rear window while the car was in a roll, crushing and killing him. It's a little crazy to me that people are perfectly comfortable going 80+ down the freeway with no belts on in the back. Like the two seat backs are enough. It reminds me of the "no smoking sections" in restaurant that were sectioned off by a half wall.

Symbiote 2y ago
I would refuse to start or continue a journey if any passenger behind our beside me won't wear their seat belt. Old UK safety video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWLmoeoHrP4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWLmoeoHrP4
- fingerlocks 2y ago
  I don’t understand what happened in that video. Are we supposed to believe that the front seat will somehow move forward from the force of the rear passenger hitting it? And this force will be so great that it will crush the front driver’s skull against the steering wheel? Is that really the take-away here? If so, that’s a PSA about poor engineering and design of the driver seat and less about rear passenger seat belt safety.
  - MaxBarraclough 2y ago
    I have no particular knowledge of this topic but from this 1998 BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/128684.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/128684.stm : > It is estimated that if all rear seat belts were worn, 120 deaths and > 1,000 serious injuries could be prevented each year. Back seat > passengers are three times more likely to die in an accident if they > are not strapped in, according to the AA. > > The organisation says each year more than 50 people in the front seats > of cars are killed after being hit by back seat passengers who were > not wearing seatbelts. edit This 2018 article from the RAC also says it's real: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-warned-of-seat-belt-dangers/ https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/drivers-warne...
  - cesnja 2y ago
    Kinetic energy increases with the square of the velocity, so in a head-on collision everything not buckled on the back seat becomes a missile heading towards the passenger seats. Even a bag with a laptop is dangerous and you should put it in the foot compartment. And that's like 3kg while an average person will weigh around 70kg.
- PlunderBunny 2y ago
  In New Zealand, the driver is responsible for ensuring all passengers are wearing seatbelts, and I believe (someone please correct me) that they can be held libel if any passenger is not wearing one.
yellowapple 2y ago
Even the folks up front need to be wearing one. That's how my cousin died: got thrown through the windshield in a head-on collision.