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Americans are appropriately disenfranchised with Silicon Valley thanks to efforts like Karp's.

• austinwade 2y ago
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  • talldayo 2y ago
    His product and company can kiss my ass if it depends on surveillance to make money. Silicon Valley won't fight for a future where leaders like him get promoted. If you think I'm wrong, watch darlings like Palantir and Anduril become the next Oracle and Lockheed of the government contracting world. Silicon Valley is just a marketplace of ideas. And it's a marketplace where we've already lost to China.
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          • dang 2y ago
            You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly lately. We ban accounts that do that. I'm not going to ban your account right now because we haven't warned you before, but if you keep posting abusively, we'll have to, so it would be good if you'd review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and fix this.
        • tcoff91 2y ago
          These traitors in our government using private companies to make an end run around the 4th amendment can fuck off. Palantir needs to be abolished.
          • talldayo 2y ago
            It is pathetic and authoritarian. Once America realizes that deregulation is not a global trade policy, we will be forced to reform some of our own perverted businesses by hook or by crook. Otherwise the economy enters a suicide spiral and it makes for a really entertaining chapter in future history books.
        • dang 2y ago
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      • kmeisthax 2y ago
        Surveillance erodes democracy. Anonymous speech is one of several necessary precursors to functional democratic institutions; which surveillance technology threatens. Ergo, even if survelliance is necessary, we should limit it as much as practical.
        • beej71 2y ago
          It's taken me some time, but I'm realizing that a lot of citizens in the US aren't actually interested in democracy, despite their claims to the contrary. A lot of what we've been seeing that seems insanely unAmerican makes a lot more sense when you drop the pretense.
      • gibbitz 2y ago
        Thinking of surveillance as necessary is treating a symptom. If a country feels it needs surveillance to stop criminals it needs to investigate what problem crime is a viable solution for. If it is to thwart terrorism, then what is motivating the terrorists. The problems here are crime and terrorism, not privacy. However, if you want to say privacy is bad then how could putting surveillance in the "private" sector fix the problem? This attitude feels like it's coming from a place where problems are quantitative (about making or saving money) and not about reducing suffering or otherwise solving qualitative problems that affect larger parts of the population. That said Industry isn't going to save America (Silicon Valley or otherwise). Corporate interest has been pretending to take the place of the new deal for 80 years all while digging a hole the country will never climb out of. Dreamers gonna dream, I guess.
• decimalenough 2y ago
  For others wondering who the hell Karp is, he's CEO and a co-founder of Palantir, Thiel's notorious big data/AI company for military and spooks. "Fighting for America" thus means joining outfits like his.
  • mgh2 2y ago
    They became "AI" after the hype, before they were just another data company - both during covid and now, they capitalize on retail investor euphoria.