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Where do you see an ordered, thoughtful, deliberate process taking place here? Is that source (or sources) believable, and non-partisan?

teddyh 2y ago
Nowhere – I don’t follow the issue. The question was for those people who are somehow convinced that it’s complete chaos. In my experience, complete chaos is very rare, but fake reports of chaos in every field are a daily occurrence. If you believe every report of chaos that comes along, you’ll believe the world is ending every day. Which it obviously has not, yet. It follows that most reports of chaos are always false. Therefore, if you believe that some specific issue is really as chaotic as reported, you’ll have to have some pretty good sources to back that up.
- petschge 2y ago
  How chaotic does https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o sound to you?
  - teddyh 2y ago
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    - petschge 2y ago
      I was referring to the "The US government is trying to bring back nuclear safety employees it fired on Thursday, but is struggling to let them know they should return to work, NBC News has reported. [...]An email obtained by NBC said the letters for some NNSA employees 'are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel'." part. It's about 300 people affected. And when you apply at these types of positions they ARE aware of private contact information.
      - teddyh 2y ago
        I really don’t get it. What is the story? Should the employer be shamed for not keeping home/private contact information for all employees? Or is the job of those employees so vital that they could never be considered for firing? The article does not state what their actual occupations are.
        dralley 2y ago
        >Or is the job of those employees so vital that they could never be considered for firing? The article does not state what their actual occupations are. They build, maintain and run security for the US nuclear weapons stockpile. This was, in fact, mentioned in the article. Quote: "The nuclear security officials who were laid off on Thursday helped oversee the nation's stockpile of nuclear weapons. That included staff who are stationed at facilities where the weapons are built, according to CNN." Would you agree that this is a job of pretty vital importance?
        teddyh 2y ago
        > They build, maintain and run security for the US nuclear weapons stockpile. This was, in fact, mentioned in the article. That’s what the department does. The article does not say what the erroneously fired employees do. > Would you agree that this is a job of pretty vital importance? How would I know? The article does not explain it. To my uninformed ears it sounds like a pretty passive thing, which, if you assume physical security is intact, can keep just fine for quite some time. If they had fired some more vital people, like all security guards, by mistake, surely the article would have said so? But instead the article prevaricates. This makes the article sound untrustworthy.
        dralley 2y ago
        I don't think you're ever going to get details on exactly what people working in such a facility do, dude. The fact that they turned around and tried to rehire them before even 24 hours had passed should probably be a sign.
- tayo42 2y ago
  > Nowhere – I don’t follow the issue. Why are you commenting if you have no interest in informing your self?
  - teddyh 2y ago
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teddyh 2y ago

Nowhere – I don’t follow the issue. The question was for those people who are somehow convinced that it’s complete chaos. In my experience, complete chaos is very rare, but fake reports of chaos in every field are a daily occurrence. If you believe every report of chaos that comes along, you’ll believe the world is ending every day. Which it obviously has not, yet. It follows that most reports of chaos are always false. Therefore, if you believe that some specific issue is really as chaotic as reported, you’ll have to have some pretty good sources to back that up.

petschge 2y ago
How chaotic does https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g3nrx1dq5o sound to you?
- teddyh 2y ago
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  - petschge 2y ago
    I was referring to the "The US government is trying to bring back nuclear safety employees it fired on Thursday, but is struggling to let them know they should return to work, NBC News has reported. [...]An email obtained by NBC said the letters for some NNSA employees 'are being rescinded, but we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel'." part. It's about 300 people affected. And when you apply at these types of positions they ARE aware of private contact information.
    - teddyh 2y ago
      I really don’t get it. What is the story? Should the employer be shamed for not keeping home/private contact information for all employees? Or is the job of those employees so vital that they could never be considered for firing? The article does not state what their actual occupations are.
      - dralley 2y ago
        >Or is the job of those employees so vital that they could never be considered for firing? The article does not state what their actual occupations are. They build, maintain and run security for the US nuclear weapons stockpile. This was, in fact, mentioned in the article. Quote: "The nuclear security officials who were laid off on Thursday helped oversee the nation's stockpile of nuclear weapons. That included staff who are stationed at facilities where the weapons are built, according to CNN." Would you agree that this is a job of pretty vital importance?
        teddyh 2y ago
        > They build, maintain and run security for the US nuclear weapons stockpile. This was, in fact, mentioned in the article. That’s what the department does. The article does not say what the erroneously fired employees do. > Would you agree that this is a job of pretty vital importance? How would I know? The article does not explain it. To my uninformed ears it sounds like a pretty passive thing, which, if you assume physical security is intact, can keep just fine for quite some time. If they had fired some more vital people, like all security guards, by mistake, surely the article would have said so? But instead the article prevaricates. This makes the article sound untrustworthy.
        dralley 2y ago
        I don't think you're ever going to get details on exactly what people working in such a facility do, dude. The fact that they turned around and tried to rehire them before even 24 hours had passed should probably be a sign.
tayo42 2y ago
> Nowhere – I don’t follow the issue. Why are you commenting if you have no interest in informing your self?
- teddyh 2y ago
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