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Just a note. If the manufacturers can get solid state batteries to the point where they are economic then EV's will be as heavy or perhaps lighter than gas cars
by Gibbon1 2y ago
Just a note. If the manufacturers can get solid state batteries to the point where they are economic then EV's will be as heavy or perhaps lighter than gas cars. Actually a 50% increase in energy density is enough. And solid state batteries have twice the energy density. So likely lighter.
Jevons paradox says cheap EV's are maybe not so great. Consider if a cheap car cost a $100k most people wouldn't own cars. They'd walk or take the bus or subway. You wouldn't usually have to walk far, buses and subways would come often.
- ghaff 2y agoMany people live in locations where walking, the bus, or subway are never going to be practical and/or do regular activities that need personal transportation. If a car cost $100K I'd almost certainly still own one.
- Gibbon1 2y agoInteresting historia I saw. A bus schedule for Geary st from 1924. Buses came every few minutes and took less time than it takes by car today. Just saying electric cars not a panacea for everything.
- ghaff 2y agoYeah, but Geary St. is close to downtown in a fairly large city. At that point, you can argue about whether you'd still want to own a car for casual trips outside the city. But you could survive without one. But I can't walk anywhere from where I live (well, except down to the river in the woods) and there's no real transit system at all. If I couldn't drive, I'd have to relocate.
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoYes, but people like you are a special case, not the typical case. Most people live in cities or suburbs.
- kiba 2y agoThese locations are probably not financially sustainable. I would also say it's not impossible to make them urban friendly. For example, I think of stroad as opportunities to implement public transportation by getting of a lane or two. It is also easier to add bike lanes since you aren't constrained by how wide the streets are.
- Tade0 2y ago> These locations are probably not financially sustainable. Farms, factories and logistics centres generally turn a profit. Not everyone has a desk job.
- kiba 2y agoI am talking about taxation and being able to provide essential services. Not everything need to turn a 'profit' but government budgets are not unlimited.
- Tade0 2y agoWould you entertain the idea of people generally living in the city, but needing to commute to at least the factories and logistics centres?
- kiba 2y agoCommuting doesn't have to be by cars, nor should factories and warehouse should be prohibited out of hand from being located inside cities. It really depends. Even then, it still makes sense to aggregate industrial concerns within a given area to benefit from colocation of related industrial facilities and make it easier to commute via public transit. Farms on the other hand should be subsidized. This is also where cars usually makes the most sense.
- ghaff 2y agoI don't live on a stroad. It's a two-lane (albeit pretty busy) country road. It's actually a fairly busy connecting artery between fairly rural towns (that also leads to a small city). It's also not something effectively served by public transit.