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That's possible only if they use the same tokens. Which likely requires they share the same tokenizer. Not sure that's the case here, R1 was built on OpenAI cl
by numba888 2y ago
That's possible only if they use the same tokens. Which likely requires they share the same tokenizer. Not sure that's the case here, R1 was built on OpenAI closed model's output.
- anon373839 2y agoThat was an (as far as I can tell) unsubstantiated claim made by OpenAI. It doesn’t even make sense, as o1’s reasoning traces are not provided to the user.
- int_19h 2y agoOne reason to believe OpenAI here is that R1 will occasionally claim to be made by OpenAI, which in e.g. LLaMA finetunes is indicative of using synthetic data generated by ChatGPT. Note that this isn't necessarily o1. While o1 is specifically trained to do CoT, you can also make 4o etc produce it with the appropriate prompts, and then train on that output.
- HPsquared 2y agoI suppose it might be hard to avoid encountering ChatGPT outputs "in the wild" now, even if they don't explicitly use it for training material.