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We already know cancer rates are going up for young people. What's changed, apart from all the extra chemicals floating in our blood?

by klipt 2y ago

t0bia_s 2y ago
Depression and massive vaccination with experimental mRNA vaccines.
- deleted 2y ago
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- lostlogin 2y ago
  Use of mRNA vaccines is fairly recent, can you show even a correlation between them and cancer rates? How is depression causing childhood cancers?
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    First, we should have randomized independend studies about side effects of new vaccines, which takes about 3 years to make. Did we have something like that during 2021 few months after developing new vaccine when milion of doses was distributed? Look at graphs in 15-44y catgeory. Still increasing mortality since 2020. Why? https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
    - lostlogin 2y ago
      No one thinks that the best drug launch method is do it untested. Isn’t that curve you show trending down?
      - t0bia_s 2y ago
        Frightened mind is easily manipulated. In 15-44y category its going up with excessive deaths.
CamperBob2 2y ago
An enormous number of things, impacting almost every aspect of human lifestyle.
brandonmenc 2y ago
Obesity. It is infuriating how many times this needs to be said. Too many people pretend this is not a problem.
- cultofmetatron 2y ago
  > Too many people pretend this is not a problem. Fatpositivity is a hell of a mental state. they are trying to frame it as not only not a problem but as a good thing. they are just playing into agrocorporations that want to continue pumping sugar into everything we eat.
  - Spooky23 2y ago
    For the most part, no. They just don’t want to be treated like some sort of lesser human being. It’s a difficult problem. People get sick of being told 300x “why don’t you just do x”
    - cultofmetatron 2y ago
      its not difficult. 1. stop drinking soda and juice. 2. eat only unprocessed food 3. go for a 30 min walk every day. its really hard to go over 300 lbs if you cook your own meals, don't load up on 300 calorie sugar bombs and take basic responsibility for your own health. and I say this as someone who used to be very fat.
- mavhc 2y ago
  Can we blame phones instead so we can keep selling our McBurgers?
- Rury 2y ago
  This. Most cancers happen from DNA mutations, and most DNA mutations happen during cell division, and cells divide well... when there is ample nutrients. The world we live in today, is very different than our distant ancestors. Calories are absurdly abundant compared to our evolutionary past, or even 100 years ago.
c048 2y ago
In my country they tested adolescent children that were brought up by eating "bio" food vs people that ate regular food. Kids that has been eating the 'healthy' "bio" food had, on average, unhealthy amounts of lead, heavy metals and other chemicals in their blood. The kids that didn't eat "bio" food didn't. So I ask you, where should the average EU person go to?
- arnonymous 2y ago
  Interesting! Do you have a reference for this? Was there any explanation given? Could be that besides the bio/normal food, also the diet composition is completely different?
  - c048 2y ago
    https://www.belganewsagency.eu/study-finds-that-young-people-in-flanders-who-eat-organic-food-have-more-toxins-in-blood https://www.belganewsagency.eu/study-finds-that-young-people...
- mistrial9 2y ago
  A man who smoked two packs of cigarettes per day for years, used to comment on "people who went to Health Food Stores" .. Look, he would say, see those people? they are not very healthy.. (often people with health problems would seek a better diet).. That man smoked for 40 years, no problem! he said.. his skin suffered, he lost his sense of taste for foods.. One year he was diagnosed with Lung Cancer and died after a slow, lingering and painful illness, in his early 60s.
  - c048 2y ago
    I don't really see what that has to do with what I posted, as it completely misses the point. This is not about eating fast food vs eating healthy. This is about groups of people eating the same food, only that one is labeled 'bio/organic' and the other isn't. When these people were subjected to tests, and the foods themselves were tested, it was quantifiably proven to be less healthy.

We already know cancer rates are going up for young people. What's changed, apart from all the extra chemicals floating in our blood?

by klipt 2y ago

We already know cancer rates are going up for young people. What's changed, apart from all the extra chemicals floating in our blood?

t0bia_s 2y ago

Depression and massive vaccination with experimental mRNA vaccines.

deleted 2y ago
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lostlogin 2y ago
Use of mRNA vaccines is fairly recent, can you show even a correlation between them and cancer rates? How is depression causing childhood cancers?
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  First, we should have randomized independend studies about side effects of new vaccines, which takes about 3 years to make. Did we have something like that during 2021 few months after developing new vaccine when milion of doses was distributed? Look at graphs in 15-44y catgeory. Still increasing mortality since 2020. Why? https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
  - lostlogin 2y ago
    No one thinks that the best drug launch method is do it untested. Isn’t that curve you show trending down?
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      Frightened mind is easily manipulated. In 15-44y category its going up with excessive deaths.

CamperBob2 2y ago

An enormous number of things, impacting almost every aspect of human lifestyle.

brandonmenc 2y ago

Obesity. It is infuriating how many times this needs to be said. Too many people pretend this is not a problem.

cultofmetatron 2y ago
> Too many people pretend this is not a problem. Fatpositivity is a hell of a mental state. they are trying to frame it as not only not a problem but as a good thing. they are just playing into agrocorporations that want to continue pumping sugar into everything we eat.
- Spooky23 2y ago
  For the most part, no. They just don’t want to be treated like some sort of lesser human being. It’s a difficult problem. People get sick of being told 300x “why don’t you just do x”
  - cultofmetatron 2y ago
    its not difficult. 1. stop drinking soda and juice. 2. eat only unprocessed food 3. go for a 30 min walk every day. its really hard to go over 300 lbs if you cook your own meals, don't load up on 300 calorie sugar bombs and take basic responsibility for your own health. and I say this as someone who used to be very fat.
mavhc 2y ago
Can we blame phones instead so we can keep selling our McBurgers?
Rury 2y ago
This. Most cancers happen from DNA mutations, and most DNA mutations happen during cell division, and cells divide well... when there is ample nutrients. The world we live in today, is very different than our distant ancestors. Calories are absurdly abundant compared to our evolutionary past, or even 100 years ago.

c048 2y ago

In my country they tested adolescent children that were brought up by eating "bio" food vs people that ate regular food. Kids that has been eating the 'healthy' "bio" food had, on average, unhealthy amounts of lead, heavy metals and other chemicals in their blood. The kids that didn't eat "bio" food didn't. So I ask you, where should the average EU person go to?

arnonymous 2y ago
Interesting! Do you have a reference for this? Was there any explanation given? Could be that besides the bio/normal food, also the diet composition is completely different?
- c048 2y ago
  https://www.belganewsagency.eu/study-finds-that-young-people-in-flanders-who-eat-organic-food-have-more-toxins-in-blood https://www.belganewsagency.eu/study-finds-that-young-people...
mistrial9 2y ago
A man who smoked two packs of cigarettes per day for years, used to comment on "people who went to Health Food Stores" .. Look, he would say, see those people? they are not very healthy.. (often people with health problems would seek a better diet).. That man smoked for 40 years, no problem! he said.. his skin suffered, he lost his sense of taste for foods.. One year he was diagnosed with Lung Cancer and died after a slow, lingering and painful illness, in his early 60s.
- c048 2y ago
  I don't really see what that has to do with what I posted, as it completely misses the point. This is not about eating fast food vs eating healthy. This is about groups of people eating the same food, only that one is labeled 'bio/organic' and the other isn't. When these people were subjected to tests, and the foods themselves were tested, it was quantifiably proven to be less healthy.