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vaccinated chickens hasn't had any health impact on Canadian's with it's own chickens vaccinated for a while now.

by SG- 2y ago

cudgy 2y ago
How do you know there’s been no health impact on Canadians?
- adamredwoods 2y ago
  Because of science. There is zero evidence that viruses like H5N1 survive through cooking. So if the vaccine is using a dead virus, there is almost zero chance it will have any affect on cooked food. https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/food-safety/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-hpai.html https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/food-safety/highly-...
  - hedora 2y ago
    Also, Canada doesn’t allow this vaccine, so anyone claiming it’s caused a public health crisis there is peddling some highly refined bullshit. :-)
  - cudgy 2y ago
    Says “Because of science” and fires off a single article from the government of Canada that has nothing to do with the issue of whether the vaccination itself causes problems in humans with consumption of animals vaccinated. Apparently, we have a different idea what science is. I’d like to leave it at that. Any other takers?
    - adamredwoods 2y ago
      "Nothing"? The link states that "is no evidence to suggest that the consumption of fully cooked poultry, beef, game meat, organs or eggs can transmit the influenza A(H5N1) virus to humans". The vaccine is made of a dead virus. Thus, heat kills virus, heat kills vaccine. >> Apparently, we have a different idea what science is. Arrogant dismissal.
      - cudgy 2y ago
        There is more than just “dead” virus in the vaccine. Byproducts like formaldehyde, antibiotics, aluminum, salts, soaps, and other adjuvants are present. Your simplistic and dismissive look at this issue is the one that’s arrogant. Hand-wavy comments such as yours deserve to be challenged.
croes 2y ago
Do you think anti-vaxxers will believe that? Never heard of shedding?
icegreentea2 2y ago
I don't think Canadian poultry (meat or egg) is actually vaccinated against avian influenza? Here's the CBC talking why Canadian egg prices have been relatively stable so far (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/egg-prices-avian-flu-canada-us-1.7450654 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/egg-prices-avian-flu-canada-u...). No mention of vaccines. Government websites about poultry and HPIA state (...last updated in 2023 >.>) state that we're still doing "stamping out" as opposed to vaccines (though we do have a task force!) https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/avian-influenza/prevention-preparedness-and-response https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-an...

vaccinated chickens hasn't had any health impact on Canadian's with it's own chickens vaccinated for a while now.

by SG- 2y ago

vaccinated chickens hasn't had any health impact on Canadian's with it's own chickens vaccinated for a while now.

cudgy 2y ago

How do you know there’s been no health impact on Canadians?

adamredwoods 2y ago
Because of science. There is zero evidence that viruses like H5N1 survive through cooking. So if the vaccine is using a dead virus, there is almost zero chance it will have any affect on cooked food. https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/food-safety/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-hpai.html https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/food-safety/highly-...
- hedora 2y ago
  Also, Canada doesn’t allow this vaccine, so anyone claiming it’s caused a public health crisis there is peddling some highly refined bullshit. :-)
- cudgy 2y ago
  Says “Because of science” and fires off a single article from the government of Canada that has nothing to do with the issue of whether the vaccination itself causes problems in humans with consumption of animals vaccinated. Apparently, we have a different idea what science is. I’d like to leave it at that. Any other takers?
  - adamredwoods 2y ago
    "Nothing"? The link states that "is no evidence to suggest that the consumption of fully cooked poultry, beef, game meat, organs or eggs can transmit the influenza A(H5N1) virus to humans". The vaccine is made of a dead virus. Thus, heat kills virus, heat kills vaccine. >> Apparently, we have a different idea what science is. Arrogant dismissal.
    - cudgy 2y ago
      There is more than just “dead” virus in the vaccine. Byproducts like formaldehyde, antibiotics, aluminum, salts, soaps, and other adjuvants are present. Your simplistic and dismissive look at this issue is the one that’s arrogant. Hand-wavy comments such as yours deserve to be challenged.

croes 2y ago

Do you think anti-vaxxers will believe that? Never heard of shedding?

icegreentea2 2y ago

I don't think Canadian poultry (meat or egg) is actually vaccinated against avian influenza? Here's the CBC talking why Canadian egg prices have been relatively stable so far (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/egg-prices-avian-flu-canada-us-1.7450654 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/egg-prices-avian-flu-canada-u...). No mention of vaccines. Government websites about poultry and HPIA state (...last updated in 2023 >.>) state that we're still doing "stamping out" as opposed to vaccines (though we do have a task force!) https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-animals/diseases/reportable/avian-influenza/prevention-preparedness-and-response https://inspection.canada.ca/en/animal-health/terrestrial-an...