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You can buy it but you can't run it, unless you're fairly wealthy. In my country (italy) a basic colocation service is like 80 euros/month + vat, and that only
by znpy 2y ago
You can buy it but you can't run it, unless you're fairly wealthy.
In my country (italy) a basic colocation service is like 80 euros/month + vat, and that only includes 100Wh of power and a 100mbps connection. +100wh/month upgrades are like +100 euros.
I looked up the kind of servers and cpus you're talking about and the cpu alone can pull something like 180W/h, without accounting for fans, disks and other stuff (stuff like GPUs, which are power hungry).
Yeah you could run it at home in theory, but you'll end up paying power at consumer price rather than datacenter pricing (and if you live in a flat, that's going to be a problem).
Unless you're really wealthy, you have your own home with sufficient power[1] delivery and cooling.
[1] not sure where you live, but here most residential power connections are below 3 KWh.
If otherwise you can point me at some datacenter that will let me run a normal server like the ones you're pointing at for like 100-150 euros/month, please DO let me know and i'll rush there first thing next business day and I will be throwing money at them.
- giobox 2y ago> You can buy it but you can't run it, unless you're fairly wealthy. Why do I need a colocation service to put a used 1U server from eBay in my house? I'd just plug it in, much like any other PC tower you might run at home. > Unless you're really wealthy, you have your own home with sufficient power[1] delivery and cooling. > not sure where you live, but here most residential power connections are below 3 KWh. It's a single used 1U server, not a datacenter... It will plug into your domestic powersupply just fine. The total draw will likely be similar or even less than many gaming PC builds out there, and even then only when under peak loads etc.
- PhilipRoman 2y agoInteresting, I run a small cluster of 4 mini pcs (22 cores total). I think it should be comparable to the aforementioned EPYC. Power load is a rounding error compared to appliances like electric iron at 1700W, etc. The impact on electrical bill is minimal as well. Idle power draw is about 5W per server, which translates to ~80 cents a month. Frankly my monitor uses more power on average than the rest of the homelab.
- semi-extrinsic 2y agoI'm pretty sure if you run a compute benchmark like Streams or hpgmg, the Epyc server will eat your mini pcs for breakfast.
- PhilipRoman 2y agoYou're probably right, I meant that the power consumption should be roughly comparable between them (due to inefficiency added by each mini).
- Ray20 2y agoI think results would be rather comparable.
- semi-extrinsic 2y agoThat would at the very least require a hefty interconnect, I'd guess at least 25Gbit with RoCE.
- eptcyka 2y agoMy server is almost never running at full tilt. It is using ~70W at idle.
- vel0city 2y agoJust a note, you're mixing kW and kWh. A connection to a home wouldn't be rated in kilowatt-hours, it would likely be rated in amps, but could also be expressed in kilowatts. > 100wh/month upgrades are like +100 euros. I can't imagine anybody paying €1/Wh. Even if this was €1/kWh (1000x cheaper) it's still a few times more expensive than what most places would consider expensive.
- menaerus 2y agoYou're (luckily) wrong on this. There's nothing that is stopping you to plug the server into your home power outlet. It will work just fine - ~0.5kW is almost nothing. Case in point - Dell also builds the workstations with the same hardware you see in their servers.