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I'm calling for someone, anyone to take responsibility for promises made that were not kept. How can any agreement of this sort be taken seriously in the futur

I'm calling for someone, anyone to take responsibility for promises made that were not kept. How can any agreement of this sort be taken seriously in the future when it seems that some people sign it, applaud each other, then some other people are expected to abide by it without any enforcement mechanisms? Matters of existential importance should be taken with great seriousness and not just for short term benefits to those wielding the pens.

cluckindan 2y ago
Obviously, it is not their existence on the line. That must change.
protimewaster 2y ago
No one wants to be responsible for anything. It's the same way at companies. Everything is constructed so that any failure can be blamed on the organization as a whole, and thus no one has to feel like they personally contributed to the failure. That's how it feels to me, anyway.
bjoli 2y ago
I mean, there are some real life cartoon villains with a lot of money working against humanity. Check out the fake interview Greenpeace did with Exxon lobbyists: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012138741/exxon-lobbyist-caught-on-video-talks-about-undermining-bidens-climate-push https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012138741/exxon-lobbyist-cau... Thunderscum. Proudly showing off the worst parts of humanity.
MrMcCall 2y ago
When the politicians lie about everything and then do not get called out for it by either the media or the populace, the problems are even deeper than the serious problems caused by our not honoring such well-intentioned and well-designed agreements. The two most important human concepts are compassion and truth. Our losing touch with those most important values has pushed our world society to the brink of misery. What's important for the people here at HN, however, is that their investments in energy-wasting tech are protected from people realizing that PG et al are not at all different than IBM in 1930's Germany: "We are just making the adding machines." "We're just investors." The world needs to wake up to the likes of the callously cruel. PG is asleep at the wheel of the machines his machine has helped produce. "So sick of complacence." --Zach de la Rocha

cluckindan 2y ago

Obviously, it is not their existence on the line. That must change.

protimewaster 2y ago

No one wants to be responsible for anything. It's the same way at companies. Everything is constructed so that any failure can be blamed on the organization as a whole, and thus no one has to feel like they personally contributed to the failure. That's how it feels to me, anyway.

bjoli 2y ago

I mean, there are some real life cartoon villains with a lot of money working against humanity. Check out the fake interview Greenpeace did with Exxon lobbyists: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012138741/exxon-lobbyist-caught-on-video-talks-about-undermining-bidens-climate-push https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012138741/exxon-lobbyist-cau... Thunderscum. Proudly showing off the worst parts of humanity.

MrMcCall 2y ago

When the politicians lie about everything and then do not get called out for it by either the media or the populace, the problems are even deeper than the serious problems caused by our not honoring such well-intentioned and well-designed agreements. The two most important human concepts are compassion and truth. Our losing touch with those most important values has pushed our world society to the brink of misery. What's important for the people here at HN, however, is that their investments in energy-wasting tech are protected from people realizing that PG et al are not at all different than IBM in 1930's Germany: "We are just making the adding machines." "We're just investors." The world needs to wake up to the likes of the callously cruel. PG is asleep at the wheel of the machines his machine has helped produce. "So sick of complacence." --Zach de la Rocha