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The most surprising thing about M1 was the energy efficiency and price/performance point they hit. It had been known for a couple of years that the phone SOCs w
by javier2 2y ago
The most surprising thing about M1 was the energy efficiency and price/performance point they hit. It had been known for a couple of years that the phone SOCs were getting really good, just that being passively cooled inside a phone case only allows them 1-2 seconds of max bursts.
- mike_hearn 2y agoApple's chips are dramatically faster than any other kind. If you are single thread perf constrained and have the money, running workloads on Apple silicon can actually make sense.
- mwcampbell 2y ago> Apple's chips are dramatically faster than any other kind. Any idea why? Is it because of some patent they hold?
- ksec 2y agoNothing to do with that, they just have a head start in the right direction along with enough money to fund many iterations before it landed on Desktop or become accepted by 95% of people. Qualcomm's current Snapdragon Elite Oryon 2 on Mobile, and ARM Cortex X925 or previously known as X5 are already close to Apple A17 level performance. So this is no longer something unique to Apple. I just wish both design are more widely available. And for x86, Intel and AMD still haven't quite caught up. At least not in the next 2 years.
- mike_hearn 2y agoCombination of using the latest TSMC processes, a very wide design, very deep speculation pipelines, a weaker memory model than Intel, and lots of clever tricks of the usual sort for fast cpus, also a very high memory bandwidth. I don't think it's anything to do with patents although I'm sure they have plenty.