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What's bothersome is the undertone of "Behold! For I have demonstrated that the entire world is led astray!" This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iph

What's bothersome is the undertone of "Behold! For I have demonstrated that the entire world is led astray!" This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iphone and thought "What's the big deal?" and not only failed to recognized what had changed, but confidently insisted others were wrong.

ben_w 2y ago
> This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iphone and thought "What's the big deal?" and not only failed to recognized what had changed, but confidently insisted others were wrong. That was me. Well, the first half — I wasn't confidently insisting others were wrong, because even back then I had a vague inkling even then that my preferences in general are very weird. But to AI: I think this is more like Wikipedia, where the frequent errors made it the butt of many jokes, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUApUyurxwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUApUyurxwY
homebrewer 2y ago
We've been through so many of these hype cycles before, the vast majority of which came to nothing, that it pays to be cautious. Are you sure it's the second iphone situation and not a repeat of the cryptocurrency bubble, which was at its peak just a few years ago? And is yet to find any applications besides financial speculation?
oa335 2y ago
> This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iphone and thought "What's the big deal?" and not only failed to recognized what had changed, but confidently insisted others were wrong. That’s an uncharitable take. People are pointing out its problems precisely because they believe AI is going to be transformative, but will have negative consequences for humanity as well. I think it’s more akin to someone in 2007 seeing an I phone and saying: this is a terrible device, people will look at while driving, it will be used to create vast intrusive surveillance state, etc.

ben_w 2y ago

> This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iphone and thought "What's the big deal?" and not only failed to recognized what had changed, but confidently insisted others were wrong. That was me. Well, the first half — I wasn't confidently insisting others were wrong, because even back then I had a vague inkling even then that my preferences in general are very weird. But to AI: I think this is more like Wikipedia, where the frequent errors made it the butt of many jokes, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUApUyurxwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUApUyurxwY

homebrewer 2y ago

We've been through so many of these hype cycles before, the vast majority of which came to nothing, that it pays to be cautious. Are you sure it's the second iphone situation and not a repeat of the cryptocurrency bubble, which was at its peak just a few years ago? And is yet to find any applications besides financial speculation?

oa335 2y ago

> This is every person in 2007 who looked at an iphone and thought "What's the big deal?" and not only failed to recognized what had changed, but confidently insisted others were wrong. That’s an uncharitable take. People are pointing out its problems precisely because they believe AI is going to be transformative, but will have negative consequences for humanity as well. I think it’s more akin to someone in 2007 seeing an I phone and saying: this is a terrible device, people will look at while driving, it will be used to create vast intrusive surveillance state, etc.