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I know you’re making a joke, but more seriously I think most yt videos have atrocious signal/noise ratios so information compression is likely very useful. Less

I know you’re making a joke, but more seriously I think most yt videos have atrocious signal/noise ratios so information compression is likely very useful. Less so for many academic papers (although they have some pretty awful filler sometimes).

debeloo 2y ago
This is exactly the problem. There are so many 20 minute videos that should have been 2 minutes. In a way, it's much easier to make the 20 minute video. Just hit record, rant an rave, stop recording and publish. There are indeed justified long videos stuffed full with knowledge, insight and witty comments to make it fun. Then there are "slow" videos but magical. Paul Sellers has a 30 min video on how to make mortise and tenons joint with hand tools. Just you and him in real time. You get a (recorded) private lesson from a master craftsman. It's magic. Every minute of it is knowledge transfer. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBodzmUGtdw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBodzmUGtdw
crakhamster01 2y ago
Some people inflate their video durations intentionally, but I think the majority of people truly think they're using the time wisely. Have you ever tried making a quick travel vlog of a vacation and ended up with a 15 minute short film? That B-roll at the airport was definitely critical to include! I think the reality is that there are a lot of amateur video creators. Elevating the few talented creators through social engagement metrics isn't perfect, but I think it works well enough. Or at least more so than what these anodyne summarizations would give us.
al_borland 2y ago
I was on YouTube a few weeks ago and saw a 20 minute video with a title that looked interesting. Under it was an AI summary that saved me 20 minutes, and had me skip the video completely. I wish that was under every video. This week I got a notification about the AI added to YouTube to allow users to ask questions about a video. I haven’t had a chance to use it yet, but I can see that also being useful to get the main points from a long video. Up until now, I mainly use the popularity indicator on the progress bar. Since I watch most videos on my TV, it’s harder to use the AI, as I would need to pull out my phone, open the same video, and ask… that’s a bad workflow. I do find it a little ridiculous that we need AI to summarize long videos full of fluff, when the only reason they are full of that fluff in the first place is YouTube’s own monetization policies which pushed the average video from 2-4 minutes to 10 minutes.

debeloo 2y ago

This is exactly the problem. There are so many 20 minute videos that should have been 2 minutes. In a way, it's much easier to make the 20 minute video. Just hit record, rant an rave, stop recording and publish. There are indeed justified long videos stuffed full with knowledge, insight and witty comments to make it fun. Then there are "slow" videos but magical. Paul Sellers has a 30 min video on how to make mortise and tenons joint with hand tools. Just you and him in real time. You get a (recorded) private lesson from a master craftsman. It's magic. Every minute of it is knowledge transfer. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBodzmUGtdw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBodzmUGtdw

crakhamster01 2y ago

Some people inflate their video durations intentionally, but I think the majority of people truly think they're using the time wisely. Have you ever tried making a quick travel vlog of a vacation and ended up with a 15 minute short film? That B-roll at the airport was definitely critical to include! I think the reality is that there are a lot of amateur video creators. Elevating the few talented creators through social engagement metrics isn't perfect, but I think it works well enough. Or at least more so than what these anodyne summarizations would give us.

al_borland 2y ago

I was on YouTube a few weeks ago and saw a 20 minute video with a title that looked interesting. Under it was an AI summary that saved me 20 minutes, and had me skip the video completely. I wish that was under every video. This week I got a notification about the AI added to YouTube to allow users to ask questions about a video. I haven’t had a chance to use it yet, but I can see that also being useful to get the main points from a long video. Up until now, I mainly use the popularity indicator on the progress bar. Since I watch most videos on my TV, it’s harder to use the AI, as I would need to pull out my phone, open the same video, and ask… that’s a bad workflow. I do find it a little ridiculous that we need AI to summarize long videos full of fluff, when the only reason they are full of that fluff in the first place is YouTube’s own monetization policies which pushed the average video from 2-4 minutes to 10 minutes.